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    Hey people I got my trailer (thanks pooch2) a 2002 leesure light excel which I'll be pulling with my 2002 Roadstar 1600. My concern is stopping and braking with a trailer approaching near half the weight of the tow vehicle which doesn't really stop that fast anyway. I'd sure feel better if I had 4 wheels of stopping power instead of relying on my motorcycle brakes. I sure would appreciate info regarding brake manufacturers or a brake package compatible with the 5 lug pattern on my trailer. Thanks to all and Happy Holidays.
    t toot'n Tommy g

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    Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

    No brakes on my Leesure Lite. You get used to it.

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    Gordon

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    • #3
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      Thanks Gordon, maybe I'll see you out there next year

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        One of the first things you need to do is to make sure your braking system, on the bike, is in tiptop condition for maximum braking. I'm not sure if your bike has rubber lines and after 18 years they may have deteriorated to the point where they expand when the brake handle is pulled and this has the effect of lowering the effective pressure in the line and limiting the power to the pads. The second thing to do is check and see if steel braided brake lines will improve the braking power. Steel braided lines will not expand, so you have full pressure to the pads at all times. I have changed the lines on my bike about two years ago and it made a tremendous difference in the braking power. Another thing you can do is change to a more aggressive brake pad material. But the added wear on your rotors may not allow this. Also braking without the trailer may be too aggressive with the pads. I don't know enough about your bike to say for sure. Go to the Yamaha venturerider.org website forum and ask questions about improving the braking on your Yamaha. I have been a member there for years and they are very knowledgeable about all bikes Yamaha. BTW, I pull a homemade camper, with a custom '89 Yamaha Venture Royale, and the trailer grosses about 450/500 lbs weight with no problem. Just increase following distance and remember it takes longer and farther to stop.

        Jim
        Life is too short to drink bad wine.

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        • #5
          Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

          Originally posted by Jayceesfolly View Post
          Just increase following distance and remember it takes longer and farther to stop.
          While the above is certainly valuable advice, it doesn't really help you if there is an emergency that requires a panic stop.

          You might want to look into getting your brake fluid flushed, especially if it was never done.
          2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Classic, 1993 HD FatBoy
          2014 Aspen Sentry
          2001 Bushtec Turbo-II

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          • #6
            Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

            Originally posted by lqqk_out View Post
            While the above is certainly valuable advice, it doesn't really help you if there is an emergency that requires a panic stop.

            You might want to look into getting your brake fluid flushed, especially if it was never done.

            You are correct, that should probably be the first thing to do. Since I pull a trailer, I change mine every year and then I don't have to worry about whether it was done. Also do the clutch fluid and radiator at the same time. It is all part of my Spring maintenance.

            Jim
            Life is too short to drink bad wine.

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            • #7
              Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

              Thanks Jim for thoughtfull reply and useful information

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              • #8
                Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                First of all, leave plenty of room between you and the vehicles in front of you. Slow down when coming to a light or stop sign. Be defensive. I have only had one incident where i had to panic stop. Traffic backed up because of an accident around a blind curve. I ended up on the berm beside the car in front of me. Still upright. I did have to clean the seat though.
                Going downhill, use the bikes engine to slow you down, downshift to lower gears. It takes a little getting used to pulling a trailer and stopping it. No reason t be in a hurry.
                2012 GL1800 Pearl white
                2005 Bunkhouse LX
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                • #9
                  Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                  Thanks to all that responded to my thread. The brakes and lines have been replaced by braided and everything is clean so I guess I'll just be careful and allow extra distance between me and whats ahead. I hope to see all of y'all at the national parks next year.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                    To answer your original question, I would go to the trailer manufacturer and see what they offer. It might not be the cheapest package but it should be the simplest.
                    Richard

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                    • #11
                      Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                      Would you pull a trailer with your car that weighs over half what the car weighs? Probably not and it would be illegal in a lot of states.

                      I pull an Aspen Classic weighing around 400 lbs with my GL1800 Goldwing which is about 900 lbs. The Wing has integrated brakes and stops really well. I started, like you, thinking I could be careful and get by. All it takes is one fool that decides to turn in front of you or run that red light for you to be a pile of junk, broken bones, or worse. I put brakes on the trailer with a Tekonsha electronic brake control on the tongue in a weather proof box. People will tell you how unsafe you will be if the brakes grab, etc. Don't buy into that as you are way more likely to have the above scenarios play out than having brakes grab.

                      I have pulled the camper from coast to coast and the Gulf to Canada and I will never pull a trailer without brakes. Weigh your decision very carefully.
                      '16 GL 1800 Red
                      '07 Aspen Classic Camper
                      '17 Yamaha WR250R - '69 Triumph 500 Daytona
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                      • #12
                        Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                        I'm with you Bipeflier, I bought a new camper just so I could get brakes on it. No matter how careful you are, there is always somebody out there waiting to test the theory that you can stop in time...
                        2019 Ultra Limited, 2017 RAH, 2006 Kompact Kamp
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                        • #13
                          Re: Braking and Stopping with trailer

                          +1 on the steel brake lines as well as flushing and replacing fluids. I towed a TimeOut with my Voyager XII (1200) and my wife has always packed for 8 days when we only needed 2 days worth of stuff. Brake early, down shift and by all means make sure the braking system is in tip top shape!

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