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    Worthington State Forest

    Thanks to the Admin for putting up the Jersey link. As a new resident (well 3 years now) and new forum member, I feel compelled to write reviews of state facilities.

    Went to Worthington State Forest, at the southeastern part of the Delaware Water Gap in New Jersey this weekend. I was with my DD so we did not motorcycle in but brought the car. Overall, I will likely not camp here again but will likely day hike.

    So you know, well I didn't know, "modern toilet" does not mean flush toilet. The toilets here are composting toilets though in a modern bathhouse with showers. My DD, who just returned from India, was a bit surprised at how badly such facilities are maintained in the US when compared to a place like India and Nepal. She said there is no reason to have such a heavy smell in a public restroom and no need to use heavy chemicals to keep it down either. Neither one of us were impressed with the facilities, even at $20/night for state residents.

    Our site was smaller than I thought it would be and very uneven. I'm not sure how to get two tents and stay away from our food cooking area, as is recommended in active bear country. We drove around a bit, and more of the tent-only sites looked like they were in spots with more trees. Just not all. No electric sites available anywhere in this park. Our site also had a waterview, but I wonder how thick the brush would be down to the river during Spring or Summer. The river is the view, and you can see it from almost every site in the Fall.

    The only experiences we had with the Rangers were good ones who gave us the recommended hike up the hard side and down the "easy" side of the Appalachian Trail. It was BEAUTIFUL! and definitely difficult up. There is a lot of rock climbing and plenty of sharp rocks to walk on. It is about a 1000 foot climb with plenty of steep switchbacks. If you have balance issues or poor, thin soled shoes, I recommend a different path. I had brand new Merrill hiking boots and still felt rocks under my feet for most of the hike. But, for my DD who was basically raised in Florida, it was a real treat. If you are up to it, see the pond. There are also some primitive sites near the trail. You will see folks like us hiking but no cars. It looked to me like there was a pit toilet and bear boxes at those sites.

    Again, I'll be buying the state annual pass and hope to return to hike.

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    Re: Worthington State Forest

    Thanks for posting. NJ is close enough to me to do weekend jaunts so you posting about the state parks you visit would be most excellent!
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    Re: Worthington State Forest

    Quote Originally Posted by RandiZ View Post
    I was with my DD so we did not motorcycle in but brought the car. Overall, I will likely not camp here again but will likely day hike.
    What's a DD? Is this a common abbreviation (Dunkin Donuts, Disabled Daughter, Designated Driver, etc)?


    Quote Originally Posted by RandiZ View Post
    So you know, well I didn't know, "modern toilet" does not mean flush toilet. The toilets here are composting toilets though in a modern bathhouse with showers.
    Easy mistake to be made. When I looked online, other facilities in NJ do mention "flushable toilets".


    Quote Originally Posted by RandiZ View Post
    My DD, who just returned from India, was a bit surprised at how badly such facilities are maintained in the US when compared to a place like India and Nepa.
    In my eyes, you lost all credibility with that comment. My friends from India have described the poor conditions in many areas there. Are you familiar with the Ganges river?


    Quote Originally Posted by RandiZ View Post
    No electric sites available anywhere in this park.
    True. It's a state forest, not an RV park.


    Quote Originally Posted by RandiZ View Post
    The only experiences we had with the Rangers were good ones who gave us the recommended hike up the hard side and down the "easy" side of the Appalachian Trail. It was BEAUTIFUL! and definitely difficult up. There is a lot of rock climbing and plenty of sharp rocks to walk on. It is about a 1000 foot climb with plenty of steep switchbacks. If you have balance issues or poor, thin soled shoes, I recommend a different path. I had brand new Merrill hiking boots and still felt rocks under my feet for most of the hike. But, for my DD who was basically raised in Florida, it was a real treat. If you are up to it, see the pond. There are also some primitive sites near the trail. You will see folks like us hiking but no cars. It looked to me like there was a pit toilet and bear boxes at those sites.
    I've both day hiked and backpacked through this area many times. The primitive site you describe above is the "Backpackers Campsite". Free to stay there and I have a few times. Privy there was always clean. If you are in the Worthington State forest area, the hike up Mount Tammany for the nice views of the Delaware gap is worth the effort.
    http://www.njhiking.com/mt-tammany/
    https://njmonthly.com/articles/jerse...mount-tammany/


    Motorcycle related: I enjoy riding on Old Mine Road. Conditions of the road are poor in areas, but it's scenic with a rural charm.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Mine_Road

    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandf...2015-85x11.pdf

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    Re: Worthington State Forest

    Rather than attack, I would rather respond with clarifying statements.

    First "D_", is for Dear ___, and is fairly common on web forums. So, DD is for dear daughter.

    Comparing the Ganges River to a bathroom in a tourist area in the USA is not an accurate comparison, in my opinion. She was referring to (and I saw for myself in Mumbai and Pune) the public toilets available in tourist areas. I think that would be a fair comparison. She commented about how they use sawdust and a variety of other inexpensive methods to deal with odor and the efficient decomposition of human waste. Again this would not be a truly equal comparison because of water sanitation, and other standards that are not comparable between the US and India. If all that means I have "lost all credibility" with you, so be it. If you don't want to read my reviews in the future because I don't say things that jive with your idea of reality, then that is your choice. I am just trying to be as honest as possible with my experiences to give people an idea of what I walked into at this campground. Others may not find the same conditions or be bothered by the same conditions. Not sure if that really has anything to do with my credibility on the whole.

    Yes, I learned that "modern toilet" is not the same as "flush toilet" and will be more mindful of that when I book sites in NJ. As for electric, there are plenty of state and national parks that have electric at the sites from what I have seen online. It appears that NJ does not. But before I make a blanket statements, I'd rather see for myself and report from actual experience as much as possible.

    Thank you for the recommendation of Old Mine Road. I look forward to checking it out.

    Wishing you happy and safe travels.

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    Re: Worthington State Forest

    I apologize to RandiZ and the other forum members for my inappropriate response on this thread. My intent was not to attack him, but to offer a different take/opinion on his comparing facilities in the US with places like India and Nepal. Comparing what I assume to be western style toilets to eastern style. Comparing public toilets in a tourist area to toilets in a forest. You are correct in that comparing the Ganges river to the restroom facilities in a recreation area is incorrect. I was just using hyperbole. Let's leave it at that.

    Sawdust, hay, straw, leaves are all used as bulking agents in a composting privy. All standard practices.
    http://atfiles.org/files/pdf/atcsanitation.pdf
    http://www.conservationengineers.org...lets_Kozik.pdf

    Where you camped is not a state or national park. It is a state forest. Next time you might want to check out High Point State Park. They have flush toilets.
    http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandf...ft_reduced.pdf

    Or the Mohican Outdoor Center, run by the Appalachian Mountain Club (AMC). I've been a member of the AMC for many years.
    http://www.outdoors.org/lodging-camp...ican/index.cfm

    Just this past Sunday, I took a friend on a 250 mile motorcycle ride all around this very area. Lot's of great roads around there and it will leave you with a very different opinion of NJ.

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    Modern Facilities has a whole range of meaning, but seems to be going to non flush vault toilets & pay showers... On most of the new style showers I use my thumb (like on a hose) to direct the water where I need it so I don't end up hugging the wall.

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