Coleman Dueal Fuel 533

[tankereng]

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I picked up a Coleman Dual Fuel Campstove at Walmart for about $26.
I've run it with both unleaded fuel and the Premium blend fuel from Coleman..P^

- Flame control isn't the most precise...Off, Low, High is about all you get. Anything less than high and it seems to sputter a little if there is any wind.

- Easy to use and heats well...stands up to a stiff wind but a wind break of some sort would aid in cooking efficiency for sure...

On a recommendation, I picked up a 34.5 Oz Plastic Folgers Coffee container to store my stove in. It fits perfectly! And the container can also do other duties such as water transportation, camp sink....etc..

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[Black and Blue]

We took two of them on our Alaska trip last summer with Ironheadziggy76. Don't recall the cost, but they were well worth their salt on that trip. Didn't have to carry any extra fuel for them, because we carried extra gas anyway. You're right about the flame adjustment, but unless you were going to cook special meals the flame adjustment was okay. A real jewel though when you can't find propane canisters or butane bottles out in the middle of nowhere.P^
I do believe Ironheadziggy76 mentioning that we also used one for our portable heater while sitting at Tok, Alaska at the picnic table, (not recommended inside the tent.:D), in his Trip report.

[Doug Huse]

I replaced my MSR with two of these. The two take up the same amount of room as the MSR with the gas bottle. These are much easier to use. I've used mine from sea level to 8000 feet without a hitch. I burn low octane.

Doug

[Ironheadziggy76]

Yep, we were kinda huddled around it during the rain in Tok. I didn't realize how much heat it put out until after the beer wore off! :p

[ImRubicon]

One of the other campers gave me a small sheet of flashing that fits in the coffee can with the stove to help block the wid when needed . makes a big diff on cold days also as the heat is reflected back at you and that can bbe so nice

[mark444]

Just went by my Wally-World here in B'ham........they have em for $29.95. I'll pick one up closer to Springtime. Thanks for the info!!
mark444

[Ironheadziggy76]

mark, you might want to go ahead and get it, they have gone up here about $10.00. May just be our Wally World locally! :mad:

[mark444]

mark, you might want to go ahead and get it, they have gone up here about $10.00. May just be our Wally World locally! :mad:

10-4 Ziggy...........if anyone else wants one for $29.95 + 9%tax + actual shipping costs, let me know and I'll grab one for ya........
They are like $54 on Amazon.com, I think...........
mark444

[mark444]

Just found this website off the StromTrooper Forum........some neat items for cheap??

http://store.colemans.com/cart/gi-multi-fuel-portable-stove-p-2394.html

[tankereng]

After my third trip now with the Coleman....It's going in the trash. Anything less than full high (Blazing inferno) and the flame sputers out in a slight breeze.. I need something with a better low heat setting for heating up my food/water while let's say...breaking camp...:(

[SidecarMike]

I replaced my MSR with two of these. The two take up the same amount of room as the MSR with the gas bottle. These are much easier to use. I've used mine from sea level to 8000 feet without a hitch. I burn low octane.

Doug
I just bought an MSR from VABob to replace one of these. I carry a couple MSR bottles anyway since the electric reserve on my Guzzi isn't real reliable.
:p

[Flashdog]

My wife and I used one for two ten day trips and it never failed us. I did have some issues with flame control but it's easy enough to overcome. We used it both with Coleman fuel and gas and I couldn't really tell a difference. One nice thing to buy is some of that fire starter paste in a toothpaste tube. Put some on that brass tube and give it a light and then the stove works perfectly almost immediatelly.

I just wish I didn't drop it when I was packing up the house to move. Damn!

[ImRubicon]

After my third trip now with the Coleman....It's going in the trash. Anything less than full high (Blazing inferno) and the flame sputers out in a slight breeze.. I need something with a better low heat setting for heating up my food/water while let's say...breaking camp...:(

I found that the metal flashing makes a world of difference in a slight breeze. but then nothing does in high wind as you just need to get out of the direct wind.

If you are really going to toss yours I might use another one ???
Or put it up for sale here as someone will buy it as most of us are happy with them

[Bender]

If you want to get rid of it let me know....

[Whosoever]

mark, you might want to go ahead and get it, they have gone up here about $10.00. May just be our Wally World locally! :mad:

Same stove now at Gander Mountain $49.95! :eek:

03 12 2010 update: Somebody told Walmart they could get more....now they are $47 and some change. Course' now people are thinking about buy them around here....spring is coming!

[SidecarMike]

10-4 Ziggy...........if anyone else wants one for $29.95 + 9%tax + actual shipping costs, let me know and I'll grab one for ya........
They are like $54 on Amazon.com, I think...........
mark444
9% tax!:eek: We complain about 5%.

[tankereng]

I'm selling my Coleman Dual Fuel....going for a cannister type stove..

Make me an Offer :rolleyes:

[Black and Blue]

tankereng;

If you are willing to give it one more try...

I cleaned mine today and it's amazing how well it works now.
I had the same complaint-high, low, or off!
But now it has a nice medium flame, all blue, no sputter.

I got the carbon/soot off the burner, needled the carburetor, oiled the pump, and found out that if it is too full of gas, it won't work properly (gotta have room to build up pressure).

Just a thought.:)

Colleen

[Mr. Guy]

All Coleman liquid fueled appliances need air space at the top of the tank to operate properly. Always fill them on a level surface, don't tilt them to fill the tank. The fuel neck is made to give the proper air space above the fuel. This air is mixed with the fuel to help it vaporize in the generator giving a cleaner burning flame. I used to work on Coleman gear at a local store LONG ago. Sputtering is usually caused by a dirty gas jet in your generator and is cleaned by turning the stove off and on a few times, pushing a cleaning rod through the jet to clean it. Unless the rod is broke off, a new generation will include a new rod with it. In an emergency, the jet can be cleaned with a very fine wire, maybe pull a strand from some electrical wire in your repair kit.

Hope this helps, Guy

[tankereng]

It's only been used twice...do they really get that dirty that quickly? I'll give cleaning it a try but I'm hooked on the Pocket Rocket/Cannister and will be picking one up today... :D

[Mr. Guy]

They shouldn't get that dirty that quickly, as long as your using clean fresh fuel. Once a can of Coleman fuel is opened, it'll start to gum up in about 4 months. Fuel left in a stove for more than 2 months should be dumped out and new fuel used or it will gum up your stove fairly quickly. Although these stove work very well in a variety of conditions ( cold and high altitude ), they are a little finicky and require some maintenance. The main reason why I use a cartridge stove myself.

For the easiest stove you'll ever use, build yourself a CAT stove:

http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html

As long as all you need to do is boil water, they work great.

Guy

[gdawg]

i bought one of these over the weekend, and wow, the flame was out of control... thought i was gonna catch something on fire, burned the hair off part of my hand trying to get at the switch......not sure what i'm doing wrong, as all i have used before was a coleman dual burner stove with the big cannister on the side, flame control not an issue with it.... i am hoping someone can show me the ropes of this stove if i am able to make it to the chill out in may.

[Mr. Guy]

My first suggestion is make sure you didn't put to much fuel in it. Dump a little out and try again. The other thing is that the single burners seem to take a little more time to heat up the generator and will flame pretty big until they do. Check the fuel, then light it on a flame proof surface and give it a minute before trying to use it. Also make sure you have pumped it up pretty good. They used air in the tank to help vaporise the fuel.

Hope this helps, Guy

[Black and Blue]

+1 on what Mr. Guy said. Give it time to stabilize before cooking. You can actually simmer food, but only after the stove stabilize. Colleen thought it was too crude at first when we took two to Alaska and blackened her coffee pot, but that was before we learned how to use it. Works good. Good luck.

Ernie

P.S. It's all a matter of preference though.:)

[Whosoever]

Based upon all the good comments about this stove I also bought one last week but left it in the box until I read Gdawg's comments.....so, I figured I'd better check it out. I only put about a half cup of fuel in it for starters...unleaded fuel that is...and proceeded to pump it up per the instructions. When I lit it I noticed a lot of orange flame at first but it quickly settled down...with only an occassional flame up...nothing bad however. The instructions call for an additional 30 pump strokes after the stove is lit, but it would only handle 28. Did that and it all settled down nicely...complete control of the flame from low to hi. Mr.Guy nailed it....lite it...let it burn for a minute or two and then it should be ready to go. It's a keeper. P^

[gdawg]

i dump out some fuel, and started it again, doing the 20 pumps, then the 30 or so when it was lit.... same thing....high orange flames...

turned it off, let it cool, took it inside my shed with no wind, same thing.... i'm thinking jeez...

so i crack that thing up some and bam, orange flame went away and now i got a blue flame.... i'm grinning ear to ear now... i turn it off.. take it back outside, light it up, crank it up, got me some blue flame.....then some green flame.... whoa baby! we on to something now..... turn it off.....run inside, grab a pot of water, some pasta....and i head back out to test this thing out...... you can see my results.......

[G wizz]

After my third trip now with the Coleman....It's going in the trash. Anything less than full high (Blazing inferno) and the flame sputers out in a slight breeze.. I need something with a better low heat setting for heating up my food/water while let's say...breaking camp...:(

It would be my guess that you have a bad generator in your stove ...
It shouldn't act the way you discribe ... Replace the generator and try it before you trash it.
OR ... Send it to me, I could use a new stove ... :)

G wizz

[coopdway]

They need air to 'carbonate' the fuel, otherwise you're just burning the raw stuff rather than the atomized. My newest Dual Fuel seems more sensitive than my 40 year old half-a-two-burner one does. Keeping my thumb over the hole, the right sort of stroke, etc. I admit I've had to think harder about the procedure than I did with my old one, but when I can concentrate hard enough, it works fine.

Pumping after it's lit helps, at least it does for me.

My old one was used enough that a drop of oil from the dipstick was necessary now and again on the felt seal around the pump rod.

[Mr. Guy]

Went out to the shed last night and came across my older dual fuel 533. I think I'll take it on a car camping trip with the kids next month, just for old times sake. :D P^

Guy

[Motocentaur]

I got a 533 in 1996 when I started motocamping, and it has never failed me even after multiple trips per year. I can get pretty good flame control with mine if I wait until it heats up before messing with it. I prefer it to my cartridge stoves.

Nice tip with the Folgers can!

[tankereng]

Just picked up an MSR Pocket Rocket tonight....(Using a Coleman 220g Blended fuel canister...$4.99) I really like the flame control on this one P^

Been tinkering with the Coleman a little...my inner MacGyver is going to take it aprt and see what happens... I'll keep this one for the family camping trips... P^P^

[ImRubicon]

They shouldn't get that dirty that quickly, as long as your using clean fresh fuel. Once a can of Coleman fuel is opened, it'll start to gum up in about 4 months. Fuel left in a stove for more than 2 months should be dumped out and new fuel used or it will gum up your stove fairly quickly. Although these stove work very well in a variety of conditions ( cold and high altitude ), they are a little finicky and require some maintenance. The main reason why I use a cartridge stove myself.

For the easiest stove you'll ever use, build yourself a CAT stove:

http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html

As long as all you need to do is boil water, they work great.

Guy


I disagree with this as the coleman fuel is good for two or more years per them on their FAQ pages
Im ashamed how long it took me to use a galleon of it


"Answer
An un-opened container of Coleman® Fuel stored in a dry area with no rapid extreme changes in temperature will remain viable for five to seven years. An opened container stored in the same area will remain viable for up to two years though will be at its best if used within a year.

Coleman® Propane Cylinders can be stored indefinitely in a dry area. The propane fuel inside the cylinder will not break down.

Return to FAQ Page

Still have Questions?
Ask us at consumerservice@coleman.com or call 800.835.3278 (Mon-Fri 8AM - 4:45PM Central Time) "

[Mr. Guy]

I'll agree that IF stored perfectly, Coleman fuel will burn for quite some time. But I've taken apart enough of them that I would want to not use fuel open for more than 6 months. Using new fuel is easier than taking one apart that you used questionable fuel in.

Of course, JMHO, YMMV.

Guy

[kvocal]

Recently I've been doing a little research on stoves. *I went out and bought a couple stoves. A jet boil, a canister type stove and a propane stove that has a grill and a burner which is actually pretty cool if you're doing car camping.

My findings go as follows. The jet boil is a really good stove if you want to boil water and boil water quickly. The problem that it has is that it burns way too hot if you want to do any kind of cooking without burning what you're cooking. One of its major benefits is you don't really need a windscreen when using the provided cup/pot.

When you look at canister stoves those are stoves that actually have the burner attached directly to the canister or a hose leading to the canister they are highly inefficient. They do not work properly if you do not have a windscreen. The stoves also have very limited adjustments for fine tuning the flame. You often run into an issue where the center of your pot gets way too hot. Again like the JetBoil they are really good for boiling water not really doing any kind of real cooking.

The propane stove that I purchased is a really awesome stove in that it has a lot of adjustments and it also includes the grill. This is really good. So if you want to do some serious cooking you are good to go. The problem that you run into with this stove for motorcycle camping is it is quite large and is not going to be something that is easily portable on a motorcycle.

One thing that all these stoves have in common is that they use fuel that can be quite expensive one exception being gasoline or diesel. The other thing that they have in common, and that is all of the stoves is that they do not burn cleanly and cannot be used in confined areas. This means that if you wanted to let say cooked inside your tents vestibule and have limited ventilation the stoves can be very hazardous.

Purely by accident I ran into a stove made by a company named Trangia. This stove burns denatured alcohol. Something that makes the stove truly unique is the alcohol burns cleanly, and is approved for marine applications and use in confined spaces. Because it burns denatured alcohol fuel is readily available throughout the world and is relatively inexpensive. You can find surplus burners in some army surplus stores for around two dollars. Combine that with a Sterno folding stove for about $9-$12 and you have a really inexpensive solution. The Sterno folding stove acts as a windshield for use outdoors. The stove burns comparable to the burners that you have at home perhaps a little hotter, you can also get a simmer ring to adjust the flames intensity.

They also offer a kit which is a lot more expensive I think it ranges anywhere between $80-$112 that actually gives you pretty much all the accessories that you would need for cooking. It includes a windscreen, pot for cooking, two bowls and a kettle for boiling. I have yet to purchase one for myself, but it definitely will be the next stove that I buy probably within the next 2 to 3 weeks. It's funny this is a design from the 1920s that seems to work better than many of the modern ones.

http://www.jetboil.com/

http://www.brunton.com/product.php?id=617

http://www.optimusstoves.com/seen/optimus-products/products/katadynshopconnect/optimus-outdoor-kocher/optimus-nova/

http://www.trangia.se/english/5614.27_series_ul.html

[kvocal]

After my third trip now with the Coleman....It's going in the trash. Anything less than full high (Blazing inferno) and the flame sputers out in a slight breeze.. I need something with a better low heat setting for heating up my food/water while let's say...breaking camp...:(

Look into the Trangia

http://www.trangia.se/english/5614.27_series_ul.html

YouTube- Trangia Series 27-1 Ultra Light Hard Anodized Aluminum UL HA

[Black and Blue]

Welcome to the site, kvocal. :hi1:

[kvocal]

Welcome to the site, kvocal. :hi1:

Thanks so much. I am looking into getting my first bike an I really enjoy the site.

[Mr. Guy]

Welcome kvocal,

Post up in the introduction forum and tell us a little about yourself:

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=112

And always remember, we LOVE pics around here.

Guy

[Black and Blue]

Thanks so much. I am looking into getting my first bike an I really enjoy the site.

Hey, kvocal.
When you introduce yourself tell us what kind of bike you're thinking of or looking at? Inquiring minds, (being nosey:p), wants to know.

[Ironheadziggy76]

Welcome to the site kvocal! Lot's of great folks on here with a ton of good info. P^

Any questions you have about bikes you are considering, this is the place to ask them. This is one of the greatest things about this site, you won't get any answers like, "That bike is crap, you need to buy the same model I have!" While people are brand loyal, they aren't closed minded about the subject.

[Mr. Guy]

[QUOTE=Ironheadziggy76;29634] This is one of the greatest things about this site, you won't get any answers like, "That bike is crap, you need to buy the same model I have!" [QUOTE]

Although, anybody who's anybody rides a 2003 Suzuki DR650. :D :rolleyes:

But I can think of about 17 other bikes I'd like to ride too. It's all good. P^

Guy

[G wizz]

[QUOTE=Ironheadziggy76;29634] This is one of the greatest things about this site, you won't get any answers like, "That bike is crap, you need to buy the same model I have!" [QUOTE]

Although, anybody who's anybody rides a 2003 Suzuki DR650. :D :rolleyes:

Guy


Guy,
You just haven't had the pleasure of riding a Sportster "dirt bike" yet ... :D

G wizz

[Black and Blue]

Welcome to the site kvocal.

Ditto what the others said. But most important is the brutally honest self assessment before getting a new bike. IMHO- The worst bike to get is one that sits in your garage. To misquote Charles Shultz: "Happiness is a warm motorcycle engine."

-Bob

BTW- if you are thinking of buying a KTM, you've got to re-watch the long way round. It will definitely show of why BMW's are awesome bikes. :D

Minus the cracked frames.:D

[Black and Blue]

What--- no spoiler alert before posting that??? I haven't gotten that disk from Netflix yet!!

LOL :D

Oh, man! We're sorry.:o We thought you already seen it.

[Mr. Guy]

Of course, if your going to ride like Ewen and Charlie, your also going to need 2 support trucks, a film crew, a producer, an personal chef, someone to set up your tent, etc., etc. :rolleyes:

Most of us can't afford that kinda setup. It's a good gig if you can I bet. P^

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Guy,
You just haven't had the pleasure of riding a Sportster "dirt bike" yet ... :D

G wizz


Just 1 of the 17 I was talking about. P^

Guy

[Black and Blue]

!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!

At least you didn't post about the episode when Charley Boorman mounts a car tire on his bike despite Ewan McGregor objections. (you know... he turns to the darkside!) :D

..:p..

[acedantinne]

Try a JET BOIL. There was 4 Jet Boils at the farm, Moonshine. Carry 1 on AT. Quick easy clean. Price? check Campmor.

[tankereng]

I picked up an MSR Pocket Rocket....works like a champ....using coleman fuel cannisters from wal-mart ($4)

[DBrent]

I have an MSR Pocket Rocket and a Coleman 533 dual fuel camp stove. I took only the Pocket Rocket to Cherohala. Trying to boil some water for Ramen Noodles, Friday night, took quite a while in that wind. I had to create a wind barrier to get it to heat up. The Coleman works a lot better in wind.

Recipe: Roasted chicken breast Ramen Noodles, prepared and water drained off. Dump in the flavor packet and a can of chicken breast meat and heat up the chicken. Makes a nice "chicken and noodle" meal.

Brent

[Black and Blue]

I have an MSR Pocket Rocket and a Coleman 533 dual fuel camp stove. I took only the Pocket Rocket to Cherohala. Trying to boil some water for Ramen Noodles, Friday night, took quite a while in that wind. I had to create a wind barrier to get it to heat up. The Coleman works a lot better in wind.

Recipe: Roasted chicken breast Ramen Noodles, prepared and water drained off. Dump in the flavor packet and a can of chicken breast meat and heat up the chicken. Makes a nice "chicken and noodle" meal.

Brent

Darn, Brent
...and you didn't invite us over for dinner.:rolleyes:

[GroundHog]

"Skunk" didn't even get any, and he watched Brent eat every bite...