Hydration?

[Mellow]

So, what do you guys use to keep you hydrated, especially in the summer months, while you're riding?

In the past, I've just gotten water at gas stops but I've also had headaches during a ride due to not drinking enough water.

I ordered one of these from chromeworld:
http://www.chromeworld.com/images/product/large/lg_1535.jpg
Click for link (http://www.chromeworld.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=1535&categoryID=0)

It's $27 and includes the ram arm and bracket for use with the Goldwing clutch or brake lever attachments. It's on back order so I haven't got it yet but hope to give it a try.

It looks like a good option as I always have a full-face helmet and I can get a water bottle somewhere with a narrow neck to allow me to get it into my helmet - hope that never gets stuck.. LOL

They also have the bike bouy here for $17:
http://www.chromeworld.com/images/product/large/lg_82.jpg
Click for link (http://www.chromeworld.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=82&categoryID=0)

Anyway, what do you guys use?

[Alan]

Not a closeup picture, but in the picture you can see the yellow squeeze bottle with a straw that I use on the road. The bottle holder is from a bicycle shop and just uses velcro straps to attach to the handlebars. I had the most trouble finding a bottle with the central straw, finally found one in a Dollar Store. I wear a full face helmet and the straw allows me to drink on the fly by just lifting the visor and poking the straw in to my mouth. Only real problem is the water heats up real fast, on the day this picture was taken, we rode into temps of 108 at Boulder Dam. But even warm/hot water is refreshing on a day like that.

[Mark]

Joe,

Better be careful as soda does not re-hydrate you: only water and the sport drinks will do the trick.

On long or day trips I use a camel back and refill it whenever I stop for gas.
I/we carry a gallon jug of RO water so that we have water that tastes okay (I know we are water flavor snobs! :-) )

Mark

[Mellow]

Joe,

Better be careful as soda does not re-hydrate you: only water and the sport drinks will do the trick.

On long or day trips I use a camel back and refill it whenever I stop for gas.
I/we carry a gallon jug of RO water so that we have water that tastes okay (I know we are water flavor snobs! :-) )

Mark

Oh, don't worry, when I meant the long neck bottles I meant the sports drinks or water bottles only... A diet coke would not be a good thing. Although, you'd loose more weight... :D

[Mark]

Good.

I've thought of a cup holder most when it is hot and dry and the camelback is preventing the evaporation from the top of my back. But I'll stick with it as I like the amount of water I have available. I use the smaller 50oz size so that I need to refill (and maybe add ice) at each stop.
If I want to splurge I buy a bottle of cold water and split it with Chris.
Yup, we are real frugal riders! :-)

Mark

[Mellow]

You also have a 300 mile range on the ST.. just 200 on the Wing so that's a difference of riding for 3 hours to riding for almost 5.

I know that cup holder will only hold a few ounces but that seems to be my problem, I just need some extra between stops when I drink anyway.

Also, doesn't get as hot here in TX as it does in AZ... LOL.. yeah, I know... dry heat... :D

[dannyk]

Joe, here's an idea for ya, took the picture at the moonshine lunch run. all you need is a lenth of surgical tube and the insulated jug. I use a camelbak for the trips, don't really take anything on the local runs. Danny

[Mark]

Didn't know about the 200m range on wingz... you need a fuel cell! :-)

We have 16% humidity right now so later when its hotter (and the humidity is lower) we'll get out of the pool and have to grab a towel and dry off quickly or freeze... go figure... 104F and freezing when you get out a 86F pool...

sorry for the thread highjack...

Mark

[Mellow]

danny,

That's cool... There's some painted and chrome in that area on the Wing but I like that idea. Gonna have to do some thinking.. :rolleyes:

Mark,

Thread Hijacking is permitted... In fact, I'm almost hijacking your thread hijack.... this could cause a riff in the time/space continuem... :confused:

[STeveGray]

I use a half-bak. It's a small Camelbak that holds about a liter of water. Because it's small it fits just fine in my tankbag and I can just open my face shield and shove the tube over the chinbar whenever I want. Riding in 100+ degree weather that keeps me well hydrated between gas stops on the ST and I refill it at each stop. In cooler weather the liter will last me at least a couple of gas stops. Because it's in the tank bag it's out of the direct sun and the water doesn't get hot. Works for me.

[number9]

I've told you before Joe, we think about things at the same time it seems (scary)... I just ordered one of these today along with the Thermal Control Pack (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=82151&memberId=12500226&storeId=226&catalogId=40000000226&langId=-1)

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47993794&parent_category_rn=4500808&vcat=REI_SEARCH
http://images.rei.com/media/669250.jpg

I got the 50oz Hydropak because it wasn't much more than the 50oz Omega bladder itself and I can strap it to the rear seat, Ortlieb bag on my rear seat, or take the bladder out and put it in my tank bag - I like to have options because I never know when I am going to change my mind.

Campmor has the older version (2004/2005?) of the Hydropak for $5 cheaper. It is designed a little different in that, from what I can tell, you access the bladder by the inside of the pack which means the bladder lid would be against your back if you were wearing it, or the lid would be on the bottom with all the water standing on top of it if you had the pack laying on the rear seat. Also, I read a review on back pack gear test of a model similar to the Hydropak and the author said the bladder was a pain to remove from the pack. The newer version of the Hydropak appears to have a flap that folds up to access the bladder lid. Also, it looks like REI has the Thermo Control pack on backorder, hence I ordered it from Campmor.

[Mellow]

Very scary indeed... I may have to give up thinking alltogether...

[Mellow]

Joe, here's an idea for ya, took the picture at the moonshine lunch run. all you need is a lenth of surgical tube and the insulated jug. I use a camelbak for the trips, don't really take anything on the local runs. Danny

Danny, I just cancelled my Ram handlebar order, I think this will work much better and since the Wing has a nice big passenger floorboard to strap a jug to I think this is perfect... and, I think I already have everything but the tubing and camelback mouthpiece.

Thanks!

[Mark]

Very scary indeed... I may have to give up thinking alltogether...

Too late....
:rolleyes:

[Trailace]

Not a closeup picture, but in the picture you can see the yellow squeeze bottle with a straw that I use on the road. The bottle holder is from a bicycle shop and just uses velcro straps to attach to the handlebars. I had the most trouble finding a bottle with the central straw, finally found one in a Dollar Store. I wear a full face helmet and the straw allows me to drink on the fly by just lifting the visor and poking the straw in to my mouth. Only real problem is the water heats up real fast, on the day this picture was taken, we rode into temps of 108 at Boulder Dam. But even warm/hot water is refreshing on a day like that.
I use a bicycle bottle holder as well. I drink a full bottle at each stop and 2 between tanks.

[Alan]

I use a bicycle bottle holder as well. I drink a full bottle at each stop and 2 between tanks.

I have found that up scale bicycle shops have some pretty interesting equipment. They have the same problems that we on motorcycles have with equipment and they don't have a motor to help! For years I carried a high tech hand air pump from a bicycle shop, they have some nice light weight gear.

[Mellow]

When I used to be more energetic and rode the bicycle every day and did charity rides on every other weekend for 75-100 mile rides (not gonna happen today), I used to go here to get stuff cheap, or cheaper than the typcial bike shops in town:

http://www.performancebike.com/

[Mellow]

Kudos to Dannyk for showing that one pic....

I went to wal-mart and for $2.47, yeah, that's right...

I got the Igloo 1/2 gallon jug in the attachment.

There are two curved areas where the spout is on the top, so you can use your fingers to
lift up the spout. I can use those to hold the jug to the Wing's floorboard via a nylon strap.

It's very secure and now I just need some tubing and the camelbak mouthpiece and I'm set.

Thanks again danny!

Update: Last 2 pics show how I'll put it on my bike, this will allow me to easily unscrew the top to add more water.

[Mellow]

I just added some pics of the cooler attached to the bike...

[mongo]

Mellow PM me your mailing address and I can send you some new tubing, my mother is on oxygen and has a closet full of air tubing still in packaging.

[Mellow]

You got it, thanks.

Sorry about your Mom, hope it not a real bad situation.

[mongo]

Thanks, she has been on oxygen for years thats is why she has a closet of tubing.

[Mellow]

I wonder how long it's gonna take to get water from the jug up to my mouth... I remember it wasn't even noticable on the camelbak but it didn't have as far to go.

[Trailace]

Looks good Joe! Now put one on the other side for overflow.

[Mellow]

Whew!... might need some smaller diameter tube... ah.. yeah.. difinitely.. .:eek:

[Mellow]

The only thing I would have preferred would be one with a separate opening to fill it without having to unstrap it.. and also, w/more insulation. But, this looks like it will work well for now.

I did see one that met this criteria but it was a smaller size, might be better for a bike w/pass footpegs instead of floorboards.. It had a separate screw type opening with a section you could freeze then screw it back on to help keep the contents cold, would be nice to use that to refil at a gas stop. I don't remember the brand, I don't think it was Igloo.

[Mellow]

Update:
Update: This is how I'll put this igloo cooler on my bike, this will allow me to easily unscrew the top to add more water. I have a small nylon strap around the center of the hour glass shape. Then, a longer one loops through it from the other side then back under the floorboard to connect to the buckle.

[Mellow]

I thought you had an ST?

[Mellow]

I don't remember mine getting that hot but I never really paid much attention to it.

What if you had a pass footpeg that was a floorboard and it didn't actually touch the frame, maybe the floorboard had connection points on it... do you think it would still melt due to the hot air flow or do you thing the frame gets hot more because of the heat from the front of the bike?

I PM'd TurboCity Tom on the ST board to see if he might want to make a pass footpeg floorboard/bracket that would not only help w/passenger comfort but allow a flat platform for putting something like this on it.

[Louie Louie]

I recently used a Joe Rocket Sahara cooliong vest and I was well impressed. I know its a bit off topic but I am a desert rat!
Great thread

[Louie Louie]

Even more of topic....I like your screen name: My plate on the ST1300 says"PSSTST". I own a drug testing company.
lol...I'm Louie from the ST forum. I changed PSST13a to Louie Louie.

[Alan]

I do...I believe the frame gets hot enough to melt plastic! :mad:

Not on my 2003 ST1300. The frame below the gas tank that surrounds the engine will get warm, but never too warm to touch to bare fingers.

[mongo]

Kudos to Dannyk for showing that one pic....

I went to wal-mart and for $2.47, yeah, that's right...

I got the Igloo 1/2 gallon jug in the attachment.

There are two curved areas where the spout is on the top, so you can use your fingers to
lift up the spout. I can use those to hold the jug to the Wing's floorboard via a nylon strap.

It's very secure and now I just need some tubing and the camelbak mouthpiece and I'm set.

Thanks again danny!

Update: Last 2 pics show how I'll put it on my bike, this will allow me to easily unscrew the top to add more water.

How did this end up, work/no work? Did the longer hose cause to much of an issue?

[Blues Traveler]

I've been using this setup for many years. First on the ST1100 (6 years) and now on my BMW.
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I've got a 2 litter bag inside the tankbag. Its got a quick release so I can take just remove the bag to refill. Theres also a retractable gear keeper for the drink valve. Get a drink and simply drop it and it snaps back to the same place each time. Like mentioned before in another response its buried deep in the tankbag were the water stays cool. As you can see I've got it in a Geeza bike cover stuff sack (Geza doesn't seem to fit in it anyway) where hopefully it will be a little safer from sharp objects. The water bag also has a big fill port where adding ice makes it even better on long trips.

I've also got my Marsee cooling vest along with my new Cycleport Mesh Kevlar jacket. All three of these working together should make for a nice comfortable ride this summer.

[number9]

I picked up a Coleman 1 liter water/sports bottle with insulated jacket at Walmart for around $3. The bottle jacket has D-rings at the top so I used a mini caribener (also found at Walmart) on the D-ring to clip it to the fold out luggage brackets on the seat of the ST1100. The bottle hangs perfectly in this location and rests on the hard grey platic areas so as to not rub the paint. I filled the bottle full of ice and used the Hydroback on my ride Saturday. About half way through the day the camelback was getting low and the ice in the bottle had about 1/2 melted and was still ice cold :D Can't find a pic of the bottle because Walmarts webitse SUCKS - unless you are looking for CD's :mad:

This was the first time ever I have ridden with on board water supply and it made a BIG difference. I didn't get a headache like I usually do and felt refreshed the whole day. I did however have to stop and "talk to a man about a horse" a few more times than I used to.

[STeveGray]

This was the first time ever I have ridden with on board water supply and it made a BIG difference. I didn't get a headache like I usually do and felt refreshed the whole day. I did however have to stop and "talk to a man about a horse" a few more times than I used to.

It is, indeed the only way to go. The trick is to time it so that you can use the same stop to fill what's empty on the ST and empty what's full in you. :p

[mongo]

Thanks Blues Traveler, I had never heard or seen these. This will make several things easier.

http://www.gearkeeper.com/#

[number9]

^^^ You can find those in Pilot Truck stops. I think they are around $20 or so.

[Blues Traveler]

Thanks Blues Traveler, I had never heard or seen these. This will make several things easier.

http://www.gearkeeper.com/#

Mongo, Thanks for the website. Never thought of looking them up to see what else they have. Bought mine through Aerostich. There are about 3-4 mounting systems. Mine actually has a sharp pointed threaded screw that you poke through the bag and screw into the gearkeeper. There are also 3 different tensions as to how much pull tension you want.

[Motocentaur]

Other than 2 liter Platypus bottles, my other favorite is a 3/4 gallon Coleman jug with an insulated cover. I bungee it to my left passenger footpeg and attach a drinking tube that can be velcroed to my gas cap or tank bag for easy access. It has a wide enough mouth for ice cubes and can be easily cleaned.

[basco]

I use a camelbak for long rides. I just strap it on my back. It doesn't restrict movement at all. I think its a old version of the "hawg". I just fill it up with ice cubes and then put in water and works great. Looks something like this

http://www.campmor.com/images/packs/67538/67538_rub.jpg

Those cup holder things look so goldwingish. :D

On shorter rides I just buy something at the gas station when fueling up.