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dannyk
02-12-2009, 07:24 PM
Anybody use one of these, I have a propane single burner but packing two cylinders seems like a waste, this looks interesting along with a small siphon hose for pack size.

bigTom
02-12-2009, 08:08 PM
I use an older (1972) model. I just use the white gas, but have been told the unleaded would be ok.

The only problem I have had with it is operator error valve assembly problems (twice). I installed the twist valve handle wrong, it wouldn't hold pressure. Which led to a picture from George of my stove sitting dead cold between two of his 'penny stoves'.

The truth is it works real well for me, I have served a bunch of coffee off of it!

motomac
02-12-2009, 09:12 PM
I used one on my Alaska trip last year every morning to perk my coffee and it never let me down. Lit the stove, went and took a shower, came back to fresh perked coffee.

ChipSTer
02-12-2009, 11:00 PM
I've got one of those somewhere... replaced it with an MSR.... But it did work well whenever I used it (and I used it a lot)... I just like the MSR better due to the size/weight I save...
:cool:

mageerc
02-13-2009, 08:10 AM
I have an old Coleman 442 that only uses white gas that is indestructible! If it didn't work as well as it does, I would purchase the updated Exponent Feather 442 Dual-Fuel Stove. It packs smaller than the Exponent Multi Fuel Stove. Both stoves cost the same, but my personal pick would be the 442. http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85208

Trekker
02-13-2009, 08:17 AM
I too have the older white gas version, and it has worked very well over the years. Coleman stoves are a solid product. The generator on mine died last summer after more than 20 years use. I need to buy a replacement part and we are good to go!

Which stove to use comes down to fuel choice & fuel storage.

I recently switched over to the butane/propane cartridge style for the easy to use & small packing factor.

DBrent
02-16-2009, 05:02 PM
Anybody use one of these, I have a propane single burner but packing two cylinders seems like a waste, this looks interesting along with a small siphon hose for pack size.

I am shopping for a Coleman 533. I've been looking around, and battling buying the 442 or 533. They are both great little single-burner stoves. My brother has owned a 533 for about 8 years and uses it on camping trips and when he goes airplane camping. The 533 is about $20 cheaper than the 442. I guess it is a size/engineering thing.

I also have an MSR Pocket Rocket, which screws onto a fuel canister. It's a good little unit, but does not simmer well because it is easily impacted by wind. Turn it down and it can get blown out by the wind.

Brent

ImRubicon
02-16-2009, 10:24 PM
Anybody use one of these, I have a propane single burner but packing two cylinders seems like a waste, this looks interesting along with a small siphon hose for pack size.

I have one and have been using the single burners for a couple of years . I mostly make coffee if needed in the morning or boil water but have cooked a one pot item now and then. They just work . I am looking into the alcohol fuel ones like the swiss one as I am trying to cut down on package size. after the little stove and a stand and a bottle for fuel I am not saving much space so may keep my dual fuel stove as it works easy and I carry it in a Folgers plastic coffee can. I fill it before the trip and just need a light if I want to warm something up

Blues Traveler
02-17-2009, 09:17 AM
I actually pack and carry 2 of the Coleman Feather Lite 442's. Together they take up just about the same amount of room as a butane/propane cartridge style stove with an extra bottle of fuel. That extra bottle is something you'll need along an a week long trip because chances are you won't be able to find another if and when you run out. I carry a siphon hose rolled up in the bottom of one of the 442's storage bags. If I need fuel I pull it from my bike. Have had both 442's for over 3 years now and all they've ever know is unleaded gas. Never a problem and have performed flawlessly and never let me down yet.

DBrent
02-20-2009, 06:08 PM
I e-mailed Coleman asking about a couple of discrepancies I was seeing in information, reviews and their web site. Here's the info they sent back:

The 533 has remained largely unchanged for many years. It has been called the Sportster II for some time and became a Dual Fuel model sometime in the early 90s. The same can be said of the Feather 442 -- It has changed little in recent years. It is in the Coleman Exponent line, which is an evolution of the Peak 1 line. The 442 really can trace its routes to the mid-70s, but has been tweaked and evolved and likewise became a Dual Fuel model in the 90s. .... They are similar in performance. The 533 of course is larger and heavier. I'd say it is perhaps slightly more stable with that larger, circular base. The Feather 442 takes up a little less space in the saddlebag or backpack. And, with the fold-out legs, I find it to be plenty stable.

533 -- 10,500 Btu of power. 2.1 pints fuel capacity. Boil time: 4 minutes/qrt. Burn time: 1:75 on high, 6.5 hours on low.

442 -- 7.500 Btu of power. 11.8 oz. fuel capacity. Boil time: 3:75/qrt . Burn time: 1:35 on high, 7 hours on low (simmer).

Hope that helps you. It has helped me decide.

Motocentaur
02-22-2009, 01:31 PM
I've been using one for at least ten years. It has never given me one bit of trouble. I use mostly coleman-type fuel in it, but I do sometimes refill it with the bike's gas. If I ever do have a problem with it, replacement parts can be found in any Walmart.

Lately I've been using a small butane cartridge stove, but I'll probably switch back to the 533 this summer. The space savings of the butane stove is negated by the cartridges, and the cartridges tend to perform less well as they empty and are sensitive to the cold. mine doesn't support the pot as steadily as the 533, and the 533 actually can simmer too.

dannyk
02-25-2009, 07:28 PM
Well thanks for the info. I picked up one today, looking forward to the first pot of coffee on it.

DBrent
03-11-2009, 04:53 PM
I purchased a Coleman 533 on eBay, and it finally arrived. I think it wanted to wander before it arrived. Here's the story: http://www.sojournchronicles.com/2009/03/my-ebay-purchase-wants-to-wander/.

Brent

JaySoy
03-25-2009, 12:29 PM
You can't beat the little Coleman stoves. I have the Coleman 442, which is the same guts, just a smaller tank.

I love the idea of running off of a single fuel source (my gas tank).

About 5 months ago, I was sitting on an RV pad in Paduka, KY in my leaky, cheap tent in the pouring rain drying out my gloves and warming up over that little stove just cracking up about how crappy it was, but how much fun I was having. :)

Trailace
03-25-2009, 12:40 PM
You can't beat the little Coleman stoves. I have the Coleman 442, which is the same guts, just a smaller tank.

I love the idea of running off of a single fuel source (my gas tank).

About 5 months ago, I was sitting on an RV pad in Paduka, KY in my leaky, cheap tent in the pouring rain drying out my gloves and warming up over that little stove just cracking up about how crappy it was, but how much fun I was having. :)

JaySoy welcome to the site. Your right no matter how cold, hot, wet or whatever its still lots of fun.P^

bigTom
03-25-2009, 12:49 PM
Welcome JaySoy

Is a great attitude about 'wet camping'. My Dad explained the difference between fishing and catching fish when I was little. Both are great fun if done right:)

Glad you are here.

snowmoer
03-27-2009, 11:40 AM
I have one from 1990 and use it all the time. I only use white gas as I do not like the smell of unleaded. Also the unleaded will wear out the generator faster, and will plug it up if you do not use it on a regular basis. I can fill my stove up and it will last me about 8 mornings before needing to be filled up. I only use it to heat water in the morning. I do like the fact that I can use gas from the bike if I need to.

Dstrickland
04-22-2009, 03:43 PM
I have one from 1990 and use it all the time. I only use white gas as I do not like the smell of unleaded. Also the unleaded will wear out the generator faster, and will plug it up if you do not use it on a regular basis. I can fill my stove up and it will last me about 8 mornings before needing to be filled up. I only use it to heat water in the morning. I do like the fact that I can use gas from the bike if I need to.

Ditto, I have a Peak1 but only use the Coleman fuel in it. Great little stove. I like the flexibility to use different fuel if needed.

NewEngland Jim
06-23-2009, 08:45 AM
I bought both my sons the exact same model stove several years ago and they work great. I have a couple of the older white gas only models and they work great also. I like the option of burning gasoline in a pinch.

dannyk
06-23-2009, 09:13 PM
Well I have used the stove at Moonshine, (The Hammond farm) and at Yosemite a week ago, great stove, brews a great pot of coffee. Danny

cyates72
06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
I have had an MSR International for over 15 years and has been one of the best investments I ever made. I attached a link for you to take a look. It will burn almost anything!

Chris

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___87723

dmulk
07-07-2009, 12:52 PM
I picked one of these up... if you compare it to the 442, it's actually a bit smaller....but works well.

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85210

Last October in Kings Canyon, I think I counted 7 riders and 10 stoves???

....there's just something about a motocamper and their stove....


Um..... what exactly is this guy doing??? ---> :tent4:


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NewEngland Jim
07-18-2009, 10:37 PM
I picked one of these up... if you compare it to the 442, it's actually a bit smaller....but works well.

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85210

Last October in Kings Canyon, I think I counted 7 riders and 10 stoves???

....there's just something about a motocamper and their stove....


Um..... what exactly is this guy doing??? ---> :tent4:


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It looks a bit more compact on the legs but other than that it lookks like my feather 400 stove. 21 years old and it still works great.

Motocentaur
12-13-2009, 07:21 PM
The red, plastic can that Folger's coffee comes in makes a perfect case for these dual fuel Coleman stoves.

ImRubicon
12-14-2009, 08:08 PM
[QUOTE=dmulk;21438]


Um..... what exactly is this guy doing??? ---> :tent4:


Ya think he's alone ... or somones in there with him ???

Sadly if a motocamper he is most likely alone .
I see a few dual riders but they are rare

ImRubicon
12-14-2009, 08:29 PM
Just a FYI if someone wants to go in a a stove . not mine I just was looking and found it
I dont need one but if you guys go in not a bad price for a stove

http://cgi.ebay.com/Case-of-4-Coleman-Centennial-Single-Burner-Fuel-Stove_W0QQitemZ370303814427QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item5637d3cb1b

motomac
12-14-2009, 09:34 PM
I picked one of these up... if you compare it to the 442, it's actually a bit smaller....but works well.

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___85210

Last October in Kings Canyon, I think I counted 7 riders and 10 stoves???

....there's just something about a motocamper and their stove....


Um..... what exactly is this guy doing??? ---> :tent4:


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I believe George carries at least 3 penny stoves.

bigTom
12-15-2009, 07:31 AM
Quote by motomac
I believe George carries at least 3 penny stoves.

Bob (AZDesertRider), too. He finally convinced me to take one, now I need to find a Heineken drinker so I can start making them. I got a 99¢ pint of fuel at Wally's:)

BJFazio
12-15-2009, 09:19 AM
I believe George carries at least 3 penny stoves.

George 'Katt Man' is the penny stove champion of the world. He gave me one down at Ft Davis, but the deer (or pigs) got in my tent & chewed it up. Go figure? I've been knocking down a couple of 6-packs of Heineken every day & saving the cans for the Katt.

bigTom
12-15-2009, 09:56 AM
So, now we know George's Heineken can supplier....

greatnortoni
09-01-2010, 04:42 PM
My first post here so...............
I have an old (black Peak 1) 442 that has been used quit a bit. I have had ZERO trouble with it since I got it in the early 80's. I also have the matching lantern but it has been used much less than the stove.
They came out with the "unleaded" version after (of course) I bought mine, so I have used only Coleman fuel in it all these years, again with NO problems what so ever.
After reading this thread I must ask the question, based on what I have read here, is it possible to run gasoline in my old 442 stove? Is there a conversion "kit" available/required to make the switch?
My first concern is safety, next would be the health of the unit itself, will it create problems with the stove?
It would sure be convenient to just tap into the M/C tank when the stove needs to be filled.
thanks in advance for your comments.
Great thread.
greatnortoni:oh2:

bigTom
09-01-2010, 09:29 PM
Welcome!

I had two 70s era single burner stoves, both flamed out on me in the same season. I'm guessing you would hasten the demise of your stove if you used unleaded. Just a guess. Oh, and both of mine flamed out with out harming anything except my pride. There is a photo around here of George heating MY coffee pot on one of his penny stoves with my stove sitting there dead. Not good:)

So. To the questions.
Where abouts in SE Wash? I grew up in Odessa, lived in Spokane for years. Have friends in Walla Walla and a brother in Tri Cities...
And what about the name? Don't tell me you ride a Norton...we already have one of those here:)

Anyway, glad you are here, enjoy!

Ironheadziggy76
09-01-2010, 11:05 PM
Welcome to the site! My brother ran unleaded in all of his older Coleman stoves and lanterns for years, even before Coleman came out with "dual fuel" models. I think he had to service them a little more than you normally would using Coleman fuel.

kayakinbiker
09-03-2010, 02:20 AM
Just bought an 11.ish dollar Coghlan's folding stove..takes those same name fuel canisters that burn for about 4 hours..the base looked more stable than those coleman thingies...i had a pot fall off 1 of those colman stoves once and those turned me off for that reason...this cheap little stove will pack smakker than a coleman..i'll let yas know what i think about it after this month...

bigTom
09-03-2010, 10:05 PM
My stove packs in a blue steel coffee cup, so it's not too bad! Several people on this site have had coffee out of that cup!!!

SidecarMike
09-04-2010, 09:06 AM
Linda,
I think you'd have liked the Sterno folding stove better, as it's made of aluminum, is much lighter, and folds flatter, but when opened, it's just as sturdy as the Coghlans.
It will hold the Coghlan fuel canisters as well as Sterno fuel ...
Just the thing for makin a quick cup of coffee in the mornin, or heating up a can of soup.
As an added plus, I've found these type of stoves work better than a propane stove at higher altitudes.
I've had one for years ...
You can buy 'em at Wally World for around $5.00 U.S.
I have a Sterno one that is so old that the original box has a price tag of 79 cents. That was for the stove and two cans of fuel. I keep it in a small winter emergency box in the back of the truck. There is an aluminum one ithat came n the camper as well.

kayakinbiker
09-04-2010, 11:01 AM
Linda,
I think you'd have liked the Sterno folding stove better, as it's made of aluminum, is much lighter, and folds flatter, but when opened, it's just as sturdy as the Coghlans.
It will hold the Coghlan fuel canisters as well as Sterno fuel ...
Just the thing for makin a quick cup of coffee in the mornin, or heating up a can of soup.
As an added plus, I've found these type of stoves work better than a propane stove at higher altitudes.
I've had one for years ...
You can buy 'em at Wally World for around $5.00 U.S.

Good 2 know..thanx! I bought this for emergency morning coffees and soup...i may want to take time to do that and not stop on a travelling morning for b'fast...I will want to get to interlochen in daylight say by 7 pm...i AM taking the long way up there ya know! HAHA!!

George
09-05-2010, 08:19 AM
I'm almost ready to buy a Coleman because of the increased price of fuel for the penny stove. How come "they" can sell e-85 (85% alcohol) for <$2.50 but a gallon of denatured at the hardware store is $16??? Much cheaper to use unleaded from the bike. Penny stoves are cheap 'n easy but Coleman fuel is cheaper.

Anyone ever pour Coleman fuel in their bike when they run out'a gas? :D

BTW, my understanding, "white gas" is just unleaded, no additives. My dad used it in his old blow torch (before propane cylinders.) Unleaded gas, with additives, should be close enuff.

SidecarMike
09-05-2010, 09:27 AM
I'm almost ready to buy a Coleman because of the increased price of fuel for the penny stove. How come "they" can sell e-85 (85% alcohol) for <$2.50 but a gallon of denatured at the hardware store is $16??? .

For the same reason that ethanol sells on the commodities market for more than gasoline, but E-85 is cheaper. It's called, "Your tax dollars at work".

greatnortoni
09-09-2010, 03:05 PM
Welcome!

I had two 70s era single burner stoves, both flamed out on me in the same season. I'm guessing you would hasten the demise of your stove if you used unleaded. Just a guess. Oh, and both of mine flamed out with out harming anything except my pride. There is a photo around here of George heating MY coffee pot on one of his penny stoves with my stove sitting there dead. Not good:)

So. To the questions.
Where abouts in SE Wash? I grew up in Odessa, lived in Spokane for years. Have friends in Walla Walla and a brother in Tri Cities...
And what about the name? Don't tell me you ride a Norton...we already have one of those here:)

Anyway, glad you are here, enjoy!

Sorry no Norton two wheeler (always wanted one?), anyway located in Wally World!
greatnortoni:bike1: