TAT Late September 08

[Trailace]

Chief and myself are planning on doing the middle part of the TAT late September and early October. He on his DR650 and I on my G650 X Challenge. We will depart Houston area on the 20th and plan to start the TAT at the Arkansas Mississippi border on the 21st. Then take 10 to 11 days to make it to the Colorado/ Utah border. Could be a little cold and some of the passes a little iffy in Colorado but it should be nice the rest of the time. We will be camping most if not all nights and hopefully some night out in the middle of nowhere.

If anyone wants to join us, feel free to let us know.

[Mellow]

I won't have much vacation left by then but once you guys know the route, post it and maybe we can find a 'where the dirt meets the pavement' location to all camp at. Preferably in Arkansas or Colorado.

[Alan]

OK, what's a "TAT"?

[Chief]

OK, what's a "TAT"?

A colorful and permanent ink drawing that you have implanted into your skin!!!!!



or it could be "Trans-America Trail", a dirt road route from Tennessee to the Pacific Ocean.

[Chief]

I've already started my 2 months of worrying about how to pack for this trip! Packing on a 650 without hard bags is a whole different ball game.:confused:

[Trailace]

I've already started my 2 months of worrying about how to pack for this trip! Packing on a 650 without hard bags is a whole different ball game.:confused:
I know you can do it.

Hey I got maps today and I started putting them into the gps map. Man this is going to take some time but it still better than the CD was. (so far)

[mcrider1959]

Hi Trailace,
I have not had a chance to try the TAT :(, but my good friend of about 20 years, Mark Sampson, has ridden the entire trail. He has his own website where he has some really good photos of the ride, along with lots of good details. He also has helmet cam video of some of the rides that can be purchased. His website is www.bigdogadventures.com Check out his website, you may find some info there that might help you out. Plus it jut makes for some good reading if you are into dualsport riding. Hope you find it helpful! :) Roger

[motomac]

The TAT is on my todo list in the near future. I don't think it will be this year though. I really would like to do the trail with a couple of experienced guys like the 2 of you, but I may hinder your progress, having never ridden dirt with ya'll, don't know how fast you go. I can do the dirt and gravel here in AK and Canada pretty well, but mud and single tracks are a little different than I have ridden in many years.

[Trailace]

Hi Trailace,
I have not had a chance to try the TAT :(, but my good friend of about 20 years, Mark Sampson, has ridden the entire trail. He has his own website where he has some really good photos of the ride, along with lots of good details. He also has helmet cam video of some of the rides that can be purchased. His website is www.bigdogadventures.com Check out his website, you may find some info there that might help you out. Plus it jut makes for some good reading if you are into dualsport riding. Hope you find it helpful! :) Roger

Roger Thanks for the link, I have read all Marks rides. Wish I had that kind of time to ride.

Mac,

I don't think this section will be that big a deal and sure you would be ok with us. I do my best to keep Chief for running away by getting in front and going slow. Anyhow your welcome to tag along if you want.

[Chief]

Roger Thanks for the link, I have read all Marks rides. Wish I had that kind of time to ride.

Mac,

I don't think this section will be that big a deal and sure you would be ok with us. I do my best to keep Chief for running away by getting in front and going slow. Anyhow your welcome to tag along if you want.

BS, BS, BS!!!!!!!
Mac, I can guaranty you wouldn't slow me down. I am not very skilled at fast riding on dirt and so I just putt along and enjoy the views. Rick, get to do a lot of riding fast and then stopping and waiting till I catch up.
You oughta go.

[Trailace]

I think it would be great to have you ride with us Mac.

I completed inputting all of AR last night. I will start OK to night.

[motomac]

I'll keep an eye on this thread and see when ya'll pin down a date. If I don't already have something going for that date, I may join you. Thanks for the confidence both of you seem to have in my abilities.

[Mellow]

Rick is a great dirt rider. I've followed him before when on the Wing and he's quite capable..

[Trailace]

Rick is a great dirt rider. I've followed him before when on the Wing and he's quite capable..
LOL :D

[Trailace]

Man I can't wait for this ride it should be a blast. I Just completed putting in all of OK turns into the GPS map. Thats 487 Waypoints for AR and OK.:D Just NM and CO to go. CO is going to take some real time.

[Chief]

Just bought some new rear brake pads and I think I'm gonna get a pair of Hippo Hands or something like them to try and keep my hands warmer if we hit cold and wet.
Still need to decide on saddlebags, sleeping bag and clothes.
It would be easier to pack if there weren't those big old piles of rock to go over in Colorado!:D

[mrprez]

Ship any cold weather gear that you need for CO to a town near the TAT. You can send it to General Delivery and mark the package to hold for your arrival. If you send it Priority Mail you can even arrange to have it forwarded to another Post Office if you need to.

John

[Trailace]

Ship any cold weather gear that you need for CO to a town near the TAT. You can send it to General Delivery and mark the package to hold for your arrival. If you send it Priority Mail you can even arrange to have it forwarded to another Post Office if you need to.

John
I might just do that.

[Mellow]

Ship any cold weather gear that you need for CO to a town near the TAT. You can send it to General Delivery and mark the package to hold for your arrival. If you send it Priority Mail you can even arrange to have it forwarded to another Post Office if you need to.

John

That's cool...

[mrprez]

This is how some thru-hikers get their food and gear along the trail. Some even use a bounce box. They keep all their town stuff in there and ship it ahead to their next planned stop in town and they have all their stuff that they need. This way, they don't have to carry all that extra weight.

John

[Trailace]

Well I'm done with NM all 63 miles now on the the hard one CO. :D

[Chief]

Well I'm done with NM all 63 miles now on the the hard one CO. :D


Come on, you got nothing else to do!

[crazymactech]

Showing my ignorance, what is TAT?

[mrprez]

TransAmerica Trail

http://www.transamtrail.com

John

[STrep]

Alan: OK, what's a "TAT"?
__________________

Alan, I think TAT is Trans America Trail

[Mr. Guy]

Hi, Give me a firm date so I can take off work and I'm in at least west Ar to NM. Hi Chief, I'm real happy with my Dirt-Bagz and a medium size duffel on top should work fine.

http://www.dbzproducts.com/

The real trick is packing light.

Guy

[Trailace]

Hi, Give me a firm date so I can take off work and I'm in at least west Ar to NM. Hi Chief, I'm real happy with my Dirt-Bagz and a medium size duffel on top should work fine.

http://www.dbzproducts.com/

The real trick is packing light.

Guy
This is a firm date
We will depart Houston area on the 20th and plan to start the TAT at the Arkansas Mississippi border on the 22nd.

[Mr. Guy]

Thats great, how long are you planning for crossing Arkansas. I could meet you in west Arkansas somewhere.

Guy

[Trailace]

Map update!

I completed loading the maps for the section of the TAT we plan on doing and here it is. :D
http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/320036397_aQSVw-L.jpg

Here is how it breaks down.:run1:
Home to start 575 miles
Start to End on the TAT 1816 miles
End to home 1173 miles
Total 3564 miles.

Now I will go back and look for campgrounds on or near the trail. I have a few already. :tent1:

[Mr. Guy]

Look at Osage Hills State park in NE Oklahoma. Not to far off the trail and a nice little park. Guy

[Mr. Guy]

I just thought of this, is this a "the more, the merrier" thing or did you have a max. number in mind. I know a few guys around the OKC area who would like to tag along also, but I don't want to exceed the crowd factor. If it gets to the split up in groups range, I'm sure I'll be in the slow group or just ride slack.

Guy

[mrprez]

Here is how it breaks down.
Home to start 1816 miles
Start to End on the TAT 1816 miles
End to home 1173 miles
Total 3564 miles.


Home to start is the same mileage as Start to End? Maybe should be 575?

John

[Trailace]

Home to start is the same mileage as Start to End? Maybe should be 575?

John
Your right I fixed it.

[Trailace]

I just thought of this, is this a "the more, the merrier" thing or did you have a max. number in mind. I know a few guys around the OKC area who would like to tag along also, but I don't want to exceed the crowd factor. If it gets to the split up in groups range, I'm sure I'll be in the slow group or just ride slack.

Guy
I think 5 or 6 would be max but I'm sure we could work around any number.

[Chief]

That map looks great! I can't wait....but I guess I will.

Mr Guy, When you're 6'4 and weigh in at a svelte 280, it's hard to pack light!!!:D

And I gotta warn ya about Trailace, he snores something awful, can't hardly camp next to him.

[Trailace]

That map looks great! I can't wait....but I guess I will.

Mr Guy, When you're 6'4 and weigh in at a svelte 280, it's hard to pack light!!!:D

And I gotta warn ya about Trailace, he snores something awful, can't hardly camp next to him.
I bet you smell the BS of that post 4 post away.:D

[Mr. Guy]

Well if it's a snoring contest you want, I'll warn you, with sleep apnea and not bringing my CPAP, you may not be able to sleep in the same county with me.

At least thats what my wife says anyway. I've never heard it, I always seem to be asleep at the time.

Guy

P.S. Time off secured!

[Trailace]

Well if it's a snoring contest you want, I'll warn you, with sleep apnea and not bringing my CPAP, you may not be able to sleep in the same county with me.

At least thats what my wife says anyway. I've never heard it, I always seem to be asleep at the time.

Guy

P.S. Time off secured!
Thats cool!

I do not snore so I will be camping far away from you guys.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Rick,

While sitting at the computer I'll try to do a little reseach about state parks in Ok.
Working East to West.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3598
I haven't been to this one before but looks close to the TAT.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3618
This one I've driven though small quiet clean.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3619
Never been here.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3604
Nice and quiet, a few miles off the highway.

http://www.travelok.com/toDo/attractionsDetail.asp?id=1+5U+5439
Have driven by but not stopped. Last one for quite a ways.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3596
Nice park, quiet area, low population.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B920
Small park, neat cave. Last park before panhandle and a deselate drive to NM.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3582
Never been there but should be close to TAT.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3584
Last state park in Ok. WAY out in the middle of nowhere.

By the way if you see Optima Lake on a map, it was drained years ago, there's nothing there, but for some reason it's still on a lot of maps.

Joe, all these are on paved roads and the ones in central Ok. would be a 6 to 7 hour ride from Dallas.

Hope this helps, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Chief,

I've found the trick to packing light is to forgo civility and embrace your stink. You would be suprised how much room extra clothes and soap take up.:)

Guy

[motomac]

OK, when I was a youngster on my first submarine (a Diesel boat) we got to shower once every 3 weeks on long operations whether we wanted to or not. So, now I enjoy a shower or 3 a day thank you very much. However there have been some camping experiences lately that a shower or 2 was missed. So, are you Texans trailering your bikes to TN? Are you planning to replace tires along the way? Are you cooking or buying meals? I will have my stove and perculator as a bare minimum.

[Trailace]

OK, when I was a youngster on my first submarine (a Diesel boat) we got to shower once every 3 weeks on long operations whether we wanted to or not. So, now I enjoy a shower or 3 a day thank you very much. However there have been some camping experiences lately that a shower or 2 was missed. So, are you Texans trailering your bikes to TN? Are you planning to replace tires along the way? Are you cooking or buying meals? I will have my stove and perculator as a bare minimum.
Welcome back!
Trailer will not work on this ride so we will ride and if we need to we will replace the tires somewhere. We are planning on buying food or eating on the road. However I will bring my small stove and some emergency food. Like you said just the bare minimum.

Hi Rick,

While sitting at the computer I'll try to do a little reseach about state parks in Ok.
Working East to West.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3598
I haven't been to this one before but looks close to the TAT.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3618
This one I've driven though small quiet clean.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3619
Never been here.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3604
Nice and quiet, a few miles off the highway.

http://www.travelok.com/toDo/attractionsDetail.asp?id=1+5U+5439
Have driven by but not stopped. Last one for quite a ways.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3596
Nice park, quiet area, low population.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B920
Small park, neat cave. Last park before panhandle and a deselate drive to NM.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3582
Never been there but should be close to TAT.

http://www.touroklahoma.com/detail.asp?id=1%2B5U%2B3584
Last state park in Ok. WAY out in the middle of nowhere.

By the way if you see Optima Lake on a map, it was drained years ago, there's nothing there, but for some reason it's still on a lot of maps.

Joe, all these are on paved roads and the ones in central Ok. would be a 6 to 7 hour ride from Dallas.

Hope this helps, Guy

Guy that was a lot of help thanks! I put a few of them on the map. I'm not setting firm plans on where to stay each night because I'm not sure how much ground we can cover each day. If need be we stop at a town eat and then ride on and find a place to set up camp. This is an Adventure ride. LOL
Hey Guy you planning on doing the whole ride with us?

[Chief]

I try to shower when my wife tells me I need to and she won't be there!!!

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac,

My plan is minimal gear all around but I will bring my small stove and pot. The usual for me is instant something for breakfast in camp, snack all day, then heat something up in camp for dinner. New tires right before I leave should see me through the trip. What type tire will you go with, I ride the gravel roads around here with about 80% street tires. Do you guys think I should go more agressive than that or stick with what I'm used to. I'm thinking D606 or IRC GP-1.

Hi Rick,

I went ahead and took the whole week off, so I may meet you guys at the Mississippi border and go at least to the Colorado border. The mountain passes will be what gets me, I'm not that brave of a rider and I get scared looking the pictures of some of those narrow ledges on the computer!!! But gravel roads I can handle.

Guy

P. S. Oh Mac, I'm guessing your home now. I followed your trip on the ST board, nice write up. Thats a lot of miles in a short time on a thumper. Glad your back now where's the pics? ;) :)

[motomac]

Man, I return to a house with no food, a saddle bag full of dirty clothes and a bazillion e-mails to get rid of and you want pictures??? I'll get some up soon.

P. S. Oh Mac, I'm guessing your home now. I followed your trip on the ST board, nice write up. Thats a lot of miles in a short time on a thumper. Glad your back now where's the pics? ;) :)[/QUOTE]

[Mr. Guy]

Speaking of "bare minimum" here's a thread some might enjoy.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331069

Some ideas to lighten your load.

Guy

[Trailace]

A slight change in plans and I updated my first post to match. We will still be leaving Houston on Sep 20 but plan on starting the TAT on Sep 21 Sunday. We should be able to get there in one day.

Guy I was planning on using the D606 or the D908RR but still not sure. I know I can get at least 3200 out of the 606 and maybe a little more if I do more dirt but have never used the 608.

[Chief]

I'm tired already!

I want to check out my new Big Agnes sleeping bag and pad to decide if it's gonna be warm enough so I decided I'm going to Colorado next week for a couple of days camping in the high country.:)

[Trailace]

I'm tired already!

I want to check out my new Big Agnes sleeping bag and pad to decide if it's gonna be warm enough so I decided I'm going to Colorado next week for a couple of days camping in the high country.:)
How long you going for and which bike you taking?

[Chief]

I'm leaving on July 8 and back home on the 13th, riding the GS.
Planning on being in Durango on the 9th, camping in Silverton 10th & 11th, leaving around noon on 12th and home 13th.
Going to the Horizon's Unlimited get together in Silverton that Beeper and I went to last year. I like listening to all the people talk about their around the world trips.

Oh yeah, the main reason I'm going is because it's cold at night and I can test my new sleeping bag,,,,,,,or buy a new one!

Wanna go?????

[motomac]

I'm tired already!

I want to check out my new Big Agnes sleeping bag and pad to decide if it's gonna be warm enough so I decided I'm going to Colorado next week for a couple of days camping in the high country.:)
Don't know which Big Agnes you have, but mine was good the whole trip. If I had camped last night it would have been way too warm. I have the -20 Elk Park. I did sleep with it unzipped a couple of nights, but the rest of the trip it was verrrry cozy. It is hard to get out of it when a bear is trying to get in the tent though!!!

[Chief]

Hey Mac, I just have the 40 degree one right now. I am thinking about buying the Summit Park down bag for cold weather but Beeper seems to think that since I am almost the size of a bear, I should be fine with the 40 degree bag down to about 25!!
How did your bag pack? That is the main reason I'm thinking about the down bag is for packing size and weight.

[motomac]

Hey Mac, I just have the 40 degree one right now. I am thinking about buying the Summit Park down bag for cold weather but Beeper seems to think that since I am almost the size of a bear, I should be fine with the 40 degree bag down to about 25!!
How did your bag pack? That is the main reason I'm thinking about the down bag is for packing size and weight.

I certainly wish I had opted for down as I toted mine all over the NW on top of my right pannier!!!! I may end up doing that anyhow. I already have 5 sleeping bags, so don't really want to get another.

[Trailace]

I'm leaving on July 8 and back home on the 13th, riding the GS.
Planning on being in Durango on the 9th, camping in Silverton 10th & 11th, leaving around noon on 12th and home 13th.
Going to the Horizon's Unlimited get together in Silverton that Beeper and I went to last year. I like listening to all the people talk about their around the world trips.

Oh yeah, the main reason I'm going is because it's cold at night and I can test my new sleeping bag,,,,,,,or buy a new one!

Wanna go?????
I want to go but all my kids will be staying with me for the month of July. This is the first time they have been together with us in almost 4 years. :eek:So I will stick around and enjoy them. They will all be gone again my mid August. :(

[Trailace]

Ok I think I found a place for us to meet and camp on night one. (September 21st) :tent1: It is only 8.9 miles from our planed starting point. The campground name is Storm Creek Lake located in St. Francis NP just north of Helena. N34 36.151 W90 36.765

I have a back up site but it only has 5 sites that are planed to be completed in the fall of 2008.:eek: So I’m not to sure if it will be ready and I only have a general area of its location but it better than no back up. The name is Delta Heritage SP and it located at N34 33.009 W90 46.086 :D

[Chief]

8.9 miles on day 1???
That's pushing it a little don't ya think?:eek: I was hoping to keep it around 6 or 7 a day!:D

[Trailace]

Here are the campgrounds I have found so far with the help of Mr Guy. I will work on CO later.


http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/321744371_hEWWi-L.jpg

[Mellow]

Hmmm... this looks like the first official MotoCampers Dual Sport ride.

How about a motto?

DS or BS!

[motomac]

OK, now that I've had a chance to look ahead a little bit, I'm in. The TexSToc/NatSToc is the weekend before ya'll are meeting in AR. The SToc event is in Eureka Springs AR. How convenient is that???!!!

[Chief]

Alright Mac!!
I'll need someone to help keep these younger folks straight.

[Trailace]

OK, now that I've had a chance to look ahead a little bit, I'm in. The TexSToc/NatSToc is the weekend before ya'll are meeting in AR. The SToc event is in Eureka Springs AR. How convenient is that???!!!

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OL

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac,
Maybe we could meet in Eureka a head the rest of the way over. It's pretty much on the way for me.

Hi Rick,

I'm still not sure about my tire choice, a lot of people say the D606 doesn't last on the highway but I'm betting they ride them to fast so as slow as I go I might get more miles out of them. What do you think. It's either that or bring a spare rear, trying to find a 17" knobby is kinda tough.

Guy

[Trailace]

Hi Mac,
Maybe we could meet in Eureka a head the rest of the way over. It's pretty much on the way for me.

Hi Rick,

I'm still not sure about my tire choice, a lot of people say the D606 doesn't last on the highway but I'm betting they ride them to fast so as slow as I go I might get more miles out of them. What do you think. It's either that or bring a spare rear, trying to find a 17" knobby is kinda tough.

Guy

I will run the D606 or the D908RR but not sure. I had 2,000 of pavement and 500 of dirt on my last 606 and they still had over a 1/4-inch of knob left. (500 to 1000 miles) It would not be that good off road but would be ok to ride home. Hope we don't do too much pavement on the route.

[Mr. Guy]

I'm just worried about the highway to the start and highway to home. And your right, who cares if the knobs are short on the way home.

Guy

[motomac]

I ordered a set of 606's today. I have a bit of pavement to get to Eureka Springs and back to AR/MS to meet you guys. I got 12,877 on the front Tourance and it still has tread on it, but the rears went in 6,000. And I didn't really ride hard, but I was loaded heavy. I will have a set of soft bags this trip and not be nearly as heavy.


Guy, if you want to meet in Eureka and ride to MS line with me, great. Or we can wait for them to get to the Eureka area.

[Trailace]

OK guys after looking at the maps and not set in concrete stopping for the day plans it looks like we could complete this by Sep 28th. It does depends on what kind of time we make but if we cover the same amount of miles that the maps call for then we would be at the UT border on the 28th of September. I know if all goes well we will have a few days left so that is why I added the CD tracks. I also just might add some of Utah but if I do that I know I will need a tire. Chief and Mac what do you think more of the TAT or some of the Continental Divide? I myself would say CD but I don’t care.

[Chief]

I would love to have a chance to ride the White Rim Trail in Canyonlands.

[Chief]

Guy, another tire option is the Pirelli MT21. That's what I have on my bike now and I'll probably run them on the TAT.

[Trailace]

I would love to have a chance to ride the White Rim Trail in Canyonlands.
This will work, its 96 miles from the end of the TAT to the beginning of the 106 mile White Rim trail. We will need to plan on doing the rim trail in a day because the camp sites fill up fast and there is a 1 year waiting list. So I read but if you want to call feel free. I still think we could camp in Arches NP and ride the trail with light bikes. What you think?

[Chief]

Sounds great!!!! 1 day should be good on the WRT. Only problem is, I'll be stopping every 100 yards to take pictures!
I saw a trip report on ADV that had a couple of nice private campgrounds in the area also.

There's a place there called Arrowhead Motorsports that caters to Dual-sporters if we need to arrange for a tire. Also a big Suzuki-Kawasaki dealer in Durango, Co. I'm gonna stop in there next week and see if they keep a good stock of Dual-sport tires. I think Mac's KLR uses a 17 rear like mine so they should have some.

[motomac]

Sounds great!!!! 1 day should be good on the WRT. Only problem is, I'll be stopping every 100 yards to take pictures!
I saw a trip report on ADV that had a couple of nice private campgrounds in the area also.

There's a place there called Arrowhead Motorsports that caters to Dual-sporters if we need to arrange for a tire. Also a big Suzuki-Kawasaki dealer in Durango, Co. I'm gonna stop in there next week and see if they keep a good stock of Dual-sport tires. I think Mac's KLR uses a 17 rear like mine so they should have some.

Yes, the KLR uses 17" rear tires and I too would like to see Arrowhead(in Moab). That's where I got my doohickey repair kit from.

[Trailace]

Sounds great!!!! 1 day should be good on the WRT. Only problem is, I'll be stopping every 100 yards to take pictures!
I saw a trip report on ADV that had a couple of nice private campgrounds in the area also.

There's a place there called Arrowhead Motorsports that caters to Dual-sporters if we need to arrange for a tire. Also a big Suzuki-Kawasaki dealer in Durango, Co. I'm gonna stop in there next week and see if they keep a good stock of Dual-sport tires. I think Mac's KLR uses a 17 rear like mine so they should have some.
Check on 18" as well for me. That will fit just right into the plans.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac, I could make it to the MS line on Sat., but I'm sure I would be feeling it though. So hang out in Eureka and wait for them to catch up wouldn't be bad except I hear Ark. east of there is real nice on the trail. There's time to make up minds here.

Hi Chief,
I've been thinking about the MT21 also,but haven't heard anyone say how many miles they get out of them. How many do you get. I like the Scorpion A/T and run them on gravel all the time but I'm not sure about the rougher parts of the trail.

Hi Rick,
I'm flexible as far as plans go, my limiting factor will probable be how long I can go with out my CPAP. I may have to head home early if I can't take the fatigue from getting to little sleep anyway. I would bring it but I'm afraid it wouldn't make it on the rough roads let alone a few drops of the bike.

Thanks All, Guy

[Trailace]

I think Chief nailed it with the White Rim Trail for the end of the ride if we have time.

Here is the map.
http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/323921534_cdwqo-M.jpg

[motomac]

I received my D606's today and they are an agressive looking tire!!! WOW, shouldn't have any traction trouble in mud with these babies!!! Look like they will do a decent job in sand also. Been a long time for any of that stuff for me guys. The last time I rode in sand was down in VA Beach on a 1200 Gold Wing. I did a lot of paddle footin'!!!

[Mr. Guy]

I'm not fond of mud and sand can eat sh#t and die as far as I'm concerned. But thats been with mostly street tires. Maybe it will be better with some knobbies on. I'm going to give it a try anyway.

Guy

[Trailace]

I received my D606's today and they are an agressive looking tire!!! WOW, shouldn't have any traction trouble in mud with these babies!!! Look like they will do a decent job in sand also. Been a long time for any of that stuff for me guys. The last time I rode in sand was down in VA Beach on a 1200 Gold Wing. I did a lot of paddle footin'!!! I like the 606's and will be running one as well on this ride' still debating on the front.

I'm not fond of mud and sand can eat sh#t and die as far as I'm concerned. But thats been with mostly street tires. Maybe it will be better with some knobbies on. I'm going to give it a try anyway.

Guy
If it rains we will be seeing mud for sure. Sand is ok if you can get your speed up but thats hard to do sometimes.

Just 75 days to go.

[Mr. Guy]

Just 75 days to go.

I was wondering if some one was going to start a count down clock. :)

Guy

[Chief]

I am up in Colorado now and I crossed the trail several times today. Seeing the dirt roads heading into the mountains got me excited. I'm typing this on my Ipod touch at the Gunnison KOA, longest message I ever typed!

[Mr. Guy]

Ok I just ordered a set of D606. I ordered 2 rears just in case. I'll see if I like them then put on the second rear right before we leave.

Guy

[Trailace]

Just 69 Days to go.:D

[Mr. Guy]

Hi,
I've been playing with Mapsource today and it looks like 415 miles +- from home to the start or 480 +- if I go to Eureka Springs to meet Mac first, then to the start. Either way a doable ride in one day. Only 69 days left, I better start packing my bags. I'll change my mind about equip. at least 69 times by then. ;)

Guy

[Chief]

I'm getting the DR out today and am gonna start getting it ready for the trip.

I spent 2 nights in Silverton, Co where we will attempt to go through or very close to. I asked several locals what the weather was like at the end of September and I got reports of 0 or very cold from several people!:eek: They seem to think we are gonna freeze!
We should probably plan to try and make it through that stretch during the middle of the day and try to get west of there for the night.

After being in Colorado I am changing my riding gear plan to include more cold weather gear!

[Trailace]

I'm getting the DR out today and am gonna start getting it ready for the trip.

I spent 2 nights in Silverton, Co where we will attempt to go through or very close to. I asked several locals what the weather was like at the end of September and I got reports of 0 or very cold from several people!:eek: They seem to think we are gonna freeze!
We should probably plan to try and make it through that stretch during the middle of the day and try to get west of there for the night.

After being in Colorado I am changing my riding gear plan to include more cold weather gear!
If someone could have gone 2 weeks earlier this would not be an issue. Maybe!

[Chief]

2 weeks earlier and I would have to stay in motels the whole way because of heat!

[Trailace]

2 weeks earlier and I would have to stay in motels the whole way because of heat!
Colorado Springs Average Temperature (in F degrees)

September low temperatures 47 high temperatures: 75

This should be OK

[Chief]

It was 42 in Gunnison last Wed. but only got down to 50 in Silverton the next 2 nights.

[Chief]

Still think we should go do the Col. part in August and then go around Col to Utah is Sep.!:D

[Mr. Guy]

Hi All,

Hey, I work outside, by that time it couldn't get cold enough to keep me from going. It's not like we're talking Prudoe Bay. I might bring an extra blanket though.:)

Guy

[Chief]

Yep, I agree Guy. I'm just changing my riding gear and packing list a little.:)

And I reserve the right to stay in a motel if it's below 32 degrees!!!

[Trailace]

I reserve the right to stay in a motel if it's below 32 degrees!!!

This is an adventure ride not a Harley Rally.

[Chief]

This is an adventure ride not a Harley Rally.

The type of motels I stay in when I'm by myself would qualify as an adventure!!!:eek:

[Mr. Guy]

I'll be where ever Cheif is if it gets below 20.

Guy

[Chief]

Actually, the only thing I am worrying about getting cold are my hands. My left hand has nerve damage and will not work at all if it gets cold. So, I ordered a set of Hippo Hands for my handlebars and I should be fine.

I also got a new jacket with them fancy zip-off sleeves so I can wear it warm or cold.

[Mr. Guy]

I've got a Fox trail jacket with the zip off sleeves, but the more I thought about those zippers pulling apart in a wreck, I finally got out the sewing machine and sewed the sleeves on permanent. I like the jacket just the same, and it and the matching pants are probably what I'll wear.

Guy

P.S. My D606s should be here Tues.

[Trailace]

As far as the weather there were a few guys who did it last year in late September and it seems ok. Here is a link TAT (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5429077#post5429077)

[Mr. Guy]

Ok, After reading these ride reports and watching some of these videos I'm starting to wonder what sort of spare parts I should bring along. What are you guys going to bring with you. I'm thinking clutch and brake levers and clutch cable at least. Of course tubes and flat repair that I always carry. What else?

Guy

[motomac]

I'm starting out with a relatively new chain and sprockets, tires with less than a thousand miles and the pictures showed roads like I just covered in NW Canada and AK, so I think I will be good to go. I will also bring my tow strap!!!

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Chief,
A page back you said you were going to start prepping your DR. What kind of work are you going to do. I've been riding mine with the suspension lowered, so last weekend I raised it back up. And I will turn my rear sprocket around when I mount my new tires. Other than that, I don't think I have much to do. I will be bringing a 14 tooth front sprocket and put it on when I get to the Mississippi. I like it better for back road work, but not so much for the highways.

Guy

[Chief]

I'm gonna change the fork springs for heavier ones. I changed the back one before Rick and I went to Mexico so I'm gonna change the front to match. I also have a 14t countershaft sprocket that I may put on or bring with me. I have a spare shift lever, clutch lever and clutch cable that I'll bring. I'll also have a tow strap in case any BMW's break down!
The only other thing besides oil and filter changes is I'm working on ergonomic things to fit my big body, like handlebars and footpeg locations.

[Trailace]

I'm putting on a new chain and sprocket, air filter and tires. I will also bring a spare shift leaver.
You can only bring so much and with my luck the things I carry will not be what I need. :( I don't think it will be that cold for 95% of the ride so I'm planing on bring mostly light weight stuff. (Here comes the snow) :p

It's still to months away so this might change.

Chief we might want to do a shank down ride before we go.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Chief,

Ya, I got the Eibech springs (fr. & rr.) from Kientech a couple years ago. They realy improved the ride.

I guess I'll bring a shift lever, clutch and brake levers and clutch cable, along with tubes. After today I might bring an extra float bowl screw also.

Does anyone plan to bring extra gas cans. I'm running an IMS 5 gal. tank which gives me about 200 mile range +-. I could build some carriers to go where the pass. foot pegs go to hold a 2 gal. can on each side if anyone thought I'd need them. That should be it.

Guy

[Chief]

Trailace has a huge tank on the BMW. I'm planning on just stealing some of his if I need any!
I have an IMS tank also so I hope we'll be OK.

[Chief]

Almost forgot, I'm carrying extra spark plugs. Always carry em on a thumper.

Who is gonna make the coffee each morning?? I have a Jetboil but the coffee I've made so far has been pretty bad.

[motomac]

Almost forgot, I'm carrying extra spark plugs. Always carry em on a thumper.

Who is gonna make the coffee each morning?? I have a Jetboil but the coffee I've made so far has been pretty bad.
I will have my perculator and stove. It makes 8 cups, but I can make two pots. I wouldn't be able to go far without a cup of coffee in the AM. Bring your own cup if you want coffee!!! I only bring one.

[Mr. Guy]

I'm a hot cocoa man so count me out, thanks anyway.

Spark plugs, good idea.

Guy

[Trailace]

Trailace has a huge tank on the BMW. I'm planning on just stealing some of his if I need any!
I have an IMS tank also so I hope we'll be OK.
I only have 6 gal but there are lot's of stops on the route. We just need to make sure we remember to stop.


I'm a hot cocoa man so count me out, thanks anyway.

Spark plugs, good idea.

Guy

No coffee for me but maybe some hot cocoa. :)
How many days now?

[Mr. Guy]

I don't know if you guys saw my gas can tread:

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1331

But I went ahead and bought 2 of these with brackets. I'll post up some pics after I get them mounted.

Guy

[Trailace]

I don't know if you guys saw my gas can tread:

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1331

But I went ahead and bought 2 of these with brackets. I'll post up some pics after I get them mounted.

Guy

I saw your gas tread and now you will have enough gas for everyone. :D

I'm trying to pack light but I do have an aluminum rear sub frame.

[Mr. Guy]

:) Gas gets REAL expensive poured out of a jug in the middle of nowhere. ;)

Guy

[Trailace]

Just wanted to say 58 more days.:rolleyes:

[Chief]

Spent most of the weekend doing maint on the DR. Changed the plugs and oil, cleaned the chain and air filter.
Also put some big, almost ape hanger handlebars on to try and make it more comfy to stand on. The wires and cables were almost too short so I spent a bunch of time re-routeing things to make it work, but got it all done.
I put a switch on the headlight so I can turn it off if I want to run my Gerbings jacket.:)

Now I'm waiting on my Dirt Bagz and Hippo Hands to come in and I'll be ready to go!
Gotta find a compression bag that my half dome tent will fit in to save some space.

Guess I should spend the next 58 days getting in better shape so I won't be draggin butt.

[Mr. Guy]

Hey Guys,

Look what was waiting on me when I got home(first pic). I love it when that big brown van shows up, it's almost like Christmas. WOW, these things are agressive, they might take some getting used to, glad I got 2 rears. I'll mount them now so I've got time to get used to their quirks. 58 days? I've got my bags half packed, but I'm still changing my mind. Glad I still got time left.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

I'm guessing you guys have seen this, but just in case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyYvYw2M07g

Guy

[motomac]

I'm guessing you guys have seen this, but just in case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyYvYw2M07g

Guy
Nope, first time I saw that one. Looked pretty tame compared to the Dempster!!!

[Chief]

I received my Dirt Bagz and hippo hands today. I think that's all I'm gonna need except for new tires right before takeoff.
I bought a video in Colorado of 2 rather "healthy" brothers that were attempting to ride basically the same section we are. They had a few biffs and boo boos but made it OK until they got between Lake City and Ouray. Both of them had their clutches go out and they had to call it quits in Silverton. The best part was when they called their Dad to tell him they were broke down and he said, "You know, with all that gear, you guys are too big and fat for them little bikes, what did you expect?"

[motomac]

Hmmmmm, maybe I'd better lose some weight!!!!

[Trailace]

Hmmmmm, maybe I'd better lose some weight!!!!

I hear ya man about the weight and will be checking my packing weight before we hit the road. There are a few things I ‘m still not sure I want to drag with me. I might work on mounting a tool tube somewhere.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Rick,
I saw this the other day.

http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25471

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351936&highlight=tool+tube

Alot of guys use welding rod storeage tubes that you can get at Lowes or Home Depot.

Guy

[Trailace]

Hi Rick,
I saw this the other day.

http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25471

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351936&highlight=tool+tube

Alot of guys use welding rod storeage tubes that you can get at Lowes or Home Depot.

Guy
I have looked at both of them and still not sure which one i want. I'm still not sure where I want to mount it.:rolleyes:

[Trailace]

I might try the DUNLOP D908RR 140/80-18 REAR for this trip. It's a little more money but it might just make the whole ride. :D
http://www.xrsonly.com/data/MFG/DUN/DUN-D908RR-R.jpg

[Mr. Guy]

I saw those too, but they didn't came in a 17" rear. Oh well.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Rick,
Thanks for suggesting the D606. I'm pleasantly surprised with them.

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12082

Guy

[Trailace]

Hi Rick,
Thanks for suggesting the D606. I'm pleasantly surprised with them.

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12082

Guy
I still might run the 606 myself but the bigger 908RR sure look good.:D

[Mr. Guy]

I received my Dirt Bagz and hippo hands today. I think that's all I'm gonna need except for new tires right before takeoff."

Hi Chief,

I was just wondering which bags you got, the Scouts, or the Rangers. How do you like them now you've got them. I bought mine before they made the Rangers and have been trying to come up with an excuse to buy them.

Guy

[Chief]

I got the Rangers. I have them on the bike now and I like them but I don't have anything in them yet. Gonna load them up tommorrow or the next day and see what they hold.

[Trailace]

I got the Rangers. I have them on the bike now and I like them but I don't have anything in them yet. Gonna load them up tommorrow or the next day and see what they hold.
They now make a set that will fit the GX so I might need to come see yours. Maybe I can see how much of my stuff will fit in them. :D

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac,

Are you using Dirt-Bagz? If you are, that would make an all Dirt-Bagz crew. Maybe we could get some sponsorship. :)

Guy

P.S. My gas cans arrived today. I'm headed out to the shop to start making some brackets.

[motomac]

I'm using Nelson Riggs. I haven't loaded them yet, but I think they will hold what I need to take. I also have my HT top box.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi All,

I found this today:

http://picasaweb.google.com/nydockingpilot/TransAmericaTrail/photo#s5156831197749203586

Thought you might like it.

Guy

And another:

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m83/strandt/?action=view&current=transam2005.flv

[Trailace]

Thanks Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi,

Your welcome. I also got my gas cans mounted up. In the first pic you can see the can, the bracket that holds it, and the foot peg mounting holes.
The other 3 pics show the cans mounted on the bike. As you can see in the last photo they crowd the foot pegs a bit so I'm not sure I'll leave them like this or I may not use them. If anybodys got any ideas I'd like to hear them.

Thanks, Guy

[motomac]

I saw somebody had mounted those on the wheel side of hard bags. I am almost positive it was on the ADV board. I had thought about doing for the aK trip, but couldn't find the cans, so I just used a simple 1 gal can bungied on the seat, one for Coleman fuel and one for gas.

[Mr. Guy]

Ok,

So I got my new levers and clutch cable today and I was thinking about routeing the cable before I leave home and zip tying the ends out of the way, so if it breaks all I have to do is switch the ends. Do any of you do this? To me it sounds like it would speed up a fix on the trail if I didn't need to remove the tank and stuff to change the cable. I'm starting to think I have to many questions, but this will be my first long off-road trip.

Thanks, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi,

Just saw this:

TAT help in Tulsa, OK

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If you need to stage tires, change oil, etc. we can help. We have a lift, tools, tire machine, balancer and vehicles. If you break down in Okla we can come and get you.

Kieth Goudelock 918-446-2245 office usually forwarded to cell after hrs

Tulsa Truck Center
5503 W 61st street
Tulsa, OK 74131

Might want to keep this in mind, Guy

P.S. He also posted this:

TAT help in Tulsa, Ok

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Had 2 TAT riders come through Friday Salsa and Mike, got tires and oil, did maintance ate and I rode the TAT from Bartlesville, ok to Newkirk, OK with them. No problems with mud, made it that far in 3 hours. they then pressed on for Alva , Ok and made it farther than that 340 mile in 1 day. 2 other TAT riders are due here this afternoon at 3:00 Burt Gunn and others, The weather is hot. You can make time in Oklahoma right now, but the hottest weather of the year faces you.
I have 721 Pirellis and dunlop 606's in stock if you need tires. Can get oil and filters for you ahead of time if you are going to need them. I have uni filter cleaner and oil. Just got A/C in the shop going. This is a not for profit help, we just want to encourage everyone to enjoy the ride. Kieth

"The Old Fart Sport Bike Riders"Tulsa, OK"Gettin old, Goin to Hell in the Dirt !

950 KTM ADV 625 SXC WR450 FZ1 270 Beta 650 DL K1200LT Hell we will ride anything ! 918-446-2245 www.tulsatruckcenter@sbcglobal.net

[Trailace]

I talked to Keith last week and he told me if we needed or wanted anything to just let him know. I will put his shop in my GPS
Hi,

Just saw this:

TAT help in Tulsa, OK

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you need to stage tires, change oil, etc. we can help. We have a lift, tools, tire machine, balancer and vehicles. If you break down in Okla we can come and get you.

Kieth Goudelock 918-446-2245 office usually forwarded to cell after hrs

Tulsa Truck Center
5503 W 61st street
Tulsa, OK 74131

Might want to keep this in mind, Guy

P.S. He also posted this:

TAT help in Tulsa, Ok

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Had 2 TAT riders come through Friday Salsa and Mike, got tires and oil, did maintance ate and I rode the TAT from Bartlesville, ok to Newkirk, OK with them. No problems with mud, made it that far in 3 hours. they then pressed on for Alva , Ok and made it farther than that 340 mile in 1 day. 2 other TAT riders are due here this afternoon at 3:00 Burt Gunn and others, The weather is hot. You can make time in Oklahoma right now, but the hottest weather of the year faces you.
I have 721 Pirellis and dunlop 606's in stock if you need tires. Can get oil and filters for you ahead of time if you are going to need them. I have uni filter cleaner and oil. Just got A/C in the shop going. This is a not for profit help, we just want to encourage everyone to enjoy the ride. Kieth

"The Old Fart Sport Bike Riders"Tulsa, OK"Gettin old, Goin to Hell in the Dirt !

950 KTM ADV 625 SXC WR450 FZ1 270 Beta 650 DL K1200LT Hell we will ride anything ! 918-446-2245 www.tulsatruckcenter@sbcglobal.net

[Mr. Guy]

:) Sorry Rick,

I should have known you'd be on top of things. I'll never doubt you again. ;)

Ha Ha. But seriously you guys are doing me a big favor letting me tag along and if I see something I think will help, I'll post it up just in case you didn't see it. Just my little part I guess.

If anyone besides the 4 of us is following along with this thread, I'd like to here your suggestions to my questions too.

Thanks, Guy

[Trailace]

It is 45 days, until Saturday, September 20!:D

[Mr. Guy]

45!!

Oh crap, I better finish packing! ;)

Guy

[motomac]

Dang, I'm in CA heading for AZ and need a headlight bulb in the KLR(haven't even thought about packing), better get my act straightened out soon. Let's see, I got 666SToc, back to CA, an RTE in IA, TexSToc in AR and.... Can I get it all done and still have enough energy left for the TAT??? And I'm on Medicare!!! OH wait, he said 45 days not 4.5 days!!!!!!

[Ironheadziggy76]

Ok,

So I got my new levers and clutch cable today and I was thinking about routeing the cable before I leave home and zip tying the ends out of the way, so if it breaks all I have to do is switch the ends. Do any of you do this? To me it sounds like it would speed up a fix on the trail if I didn't need to remove the tank and stuff to change the cable. I'm starting to think I have to many questions, but this will be my first long off-road trip.

Thanks, Guy

Guy, I was thinking of doing this very thing, or installing the new one and route the old one as a back up for my trip to AK.

[Mr. Guy]

Ya Ya, I know, " Not another question from Guy ", But here's my latest. Were's the fine line between packing for comfort, and packing light enough for the trail. I know this is a matter of personal preference, but how much is enough and how much is to much. I'm stuck between whether or not to take my tent, thick sleep mat, and chair or no tent, thinner mat, and no chair. Also between my thick sleeping bag, which will be to hot most of the trip, and thinner bag, which may be to cold in Colorado, but I can add a liner to it. I'm only talking about 10 or 12 lbs. so does it even matter? some of the weight will be up high, will that affect handling to much? Or am I just worrying about to many small details? I never worried about this stuff before, but those were all mostly highway trips with a little gravel thrown in, this is a new ball game to me.

So go with comfort, or go with easier trail riding?

Help Please, Guy

[Trailace]

Guy,
I'm trying to pack as light as I can and still be comfortable. I think most of this ride will be easy unless it rains a lot then we will be dealing with lots of mud. If that is the case than you do not want an overloaded bike.

Hey you going to do the whole ride now? :D

Ya Ya, I know, " Not another question from Guy ", But here's my latest. Were's the fine line between packing for comfort, and packing light enough for the trail. I know this is a matter of personal preference, but how much is enough and how much is to much. I'm stuck between whether or not to take my tent, thick sleep mat, and chair or no tent, thinner mat, and no chair. Also between my thick sleeping bag, which will be to hot most of the trip, and thinner bag, which may be to cold in Colorado, but I can add a liner to it. I'm only talking about 10 or 12 lbs. so does it even matter? some of the weight will be up high, will that affect handling to much? Or am I just worrying about to many small details? I never worried about this stuff before, but those were all mostly highway trips with a little gravel thrown in, this is a new ball game to me.

So go with comfort, or go with easier trail riding?

Help Please, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Rick,

Yea, I'm leaning more to the light side. I've got time off 9-20 to 9-28, so I will try to go as far as I can. But like I've said, my limiting factors will be fatigue from to little sleep ( sleep apnea ) or to tough a trail, I'm not in this to risk getting hurt. With you guys help, though I will go as far as I feel safe. Or as time allows.

Again, thanks for letting me tag along, Guy

P.S. Details: I was thinking, if it's ok with Mac, of being packed up on Thurs, then leaving work around noonish on Fri. and meeting Mac in Eureka Springs Fri night, then an easy ride to West Helena on Sat. to meet Rick and Chief. Mac if thats ok with you I'll PM cell # for if any last minute changes.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi,
Would you guys look this over and tell me if I forgot anything.

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1373

Thanks, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

38 days and counting. By the way, bags are still getting lighter. I may need to revise my packed gallery.

Guy

[motomac]

Man, you guys are starting to make me nervous. I'm still in Ocean Beach CA and have the Wing. I still need a new headlight bulb in the KLR and haven't started to pack cause the KLR is in Ohio!!! I did get to 666SToc in AZ, but went back to CA. I still have the RTE in IA to do then back to OH for a couple of days, back to CA for a couple of weeks and back to OH for the KLR and then to AR for Tex/NatSToc and the TAT!!! Dang, I was gonna try to not do so many miles this year!!!

[Chief]

That's a crazy schedule Mac, but I envy you! I wish I had that much riding planned.

[motomac]

That's a crazy schedule Mac, but I envy you! I wish I had that much riding planned.
It's easy when you're retired and single!!!

[Mr. Guy]

Dang, I won't get that many miles in this decade. I find I envy you too, and strangely hate you at the same time. :)

Good luck, Guy

[motomac]

Guy, last year I had 71,885 miles. This year I will only be in the 50K range.
I love to travel, I love to camp, and I love to ride. Since I don't have to do Honeydo's for someone else, I pretty much march to my own drum. My kids are grown and married and are fairly self sufficient. My neighbor watches the house, picks up my mail, and mows my yard while I'm away. And a lot of folks feel the same as you about me. Thanks!

[Ironheadziggy76]

I can't wait to see the ride report from this trip!

Mac you are a very lucky man, I'm with Guy, I hate you too! :p

[Mr. Guy]

More post like that from Mac, and I'll have a new HERO!!

Guy

[Trailace]

My new tires came today.:D

[Chief]

My new tires came today.:D

What did you end up with?

[Trailace]

What did you end up with?

Pirelli MT21 90/90-21 Front
Dunlop RallyRaid908 140/80-18 Rear

[Chief]

Pirelli MT21 90/90-21 Front
Dunlop RallyRaid908 140/80-18 Rear


OK??? Now why did you end up with that combo?

[Mr. Guy]

Yea, Why? Oh, and pics.

[Trailace]

OK??? Now why did you end up with that combo?

There are a few reasons I pick this combo. First off the D606 is a great tire but it is actually one size smaller then what came on the GX. By smaller I mean skinner and although they are skinner it is also a taller tire. 130/90/18 (W/H/D). The GX is a tall so the shorter 140/80/18 might help me reach the ground better. The RR908 is wider so it will do a little better in sand and gravel. The down side is the tread patter will not be as good in the mud. It also has a thick carcass so you can run the air pressure down to 12 or 14 lbs without an issue. The last thing is this is a heavy tire for heavy bikes like the KTM 950 ADV so on 650 there are reports of guys getting up to 5,000 miles of wear.

I pick the MT21 because it also has a thick carcass and can handle low psi. Not sure how long it will last but time will tell.

Yea, Why? Oh, and pics.

After I install them I will take a few pic’s.

[Mr. Guy]

I just meant internet pics, I wasn't sure what they looked like.

Dunlop D908RR

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/dunlop_motocross/D908R.jpg

Pirreli MT21

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/pirelli_motocross/mt21.jpg

Guy

[Trailace]

Installed new sprockets and chain yesterday and put on the tube map holder today. :D
http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/353152425_bumjM-M.jpg

http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/353741712_gt2DA-M.jpg
http://trailace.smugmug.com/photos/353741544_kY48A-M.jpg

[Chief]

Looks good, did you go with stock gearing?
I can't decide whether to change the chain and sprockets. I'm thinking no.
I put almost all of the clothes I'm gonna take in 1 side of my dirt bagz yesterday so I have extra room for a couple of extra cold weather things.

Less than 5 weeks to go!!:)

[Trailace]

Looks good, did you go with stock gearing?
I can't decide whether to change the chain and sprockets. I'm thinking no.
I put almost all of the clothes I'm gonna take in 1 side of my dirt bagz yesterday so I have extra room for a couple of extra cold weather things.

Less than 5 weeks to go!!:)
I went from a rear 47 tooth to a 50 but went back to a 15 tooth front. I was running a 14 front and 47 rear.

I was going to do a test pack but had some other thing's come up.

[motomac]

Man, I'm running a 16/43. I hope I don't have to climb any big mountains.

[Trailace]

Man, I'm running a 16/43. I hope I don't have to climb any big mountains.
Man you should get good mpg with them tall gears.

[Mellow]

That map holder looks cool... However, I know how you think and in your mind you're saying "That will be the first thing that breaks off"... LOL

[Trailace]

That map holder looks cool... However, I know how you think and in your mind you're saying "That will be the first thing that breaks off"... LOLYour so right.:D

[Mellow]

Your so right.:D

I bet if you lay the bike on it's right side, that's the first thing that touches.... LOL.. .I'm bad.. I'm really bad...

[Chief]

I've got the camera ready when he falls!!!!:D
Unless he's so far ahead I can't see him.

[Mellow]

I've got the camera ready when he falls!!!!:D
Unless he's so far ahead I can't see him.

Just don't run over it... wink wink.. then take the picture.:eek:

[motomac]

Man you should get good mpg with them tall gears.
It is nice on the highway, but haven't been off road since I installed it. Allows me to run 70 at 4500 RPM. Maybe I should bring a 14 along and change it after TexSToc.

[Mr. Guy]

I'm running stock gearing (15/42), but will be bringing my 14 to change to once I get to the start.

Guy

[Chief]

I'm running stock gearing (15/42), but will be bringing my 14 to change to once I get to the start.

Guy

Me too.

[Mr. Guy]

Is it "Great minds think alike" or "small minds seldom vary". ;) It's hard for me to tell what's going on in my head.

Guy

[Trailace]

Only 1 month away. :D

[Mr. Guy]

And counting.

[Mr. Guy]

I just came across this and I have to admit it's a good description of my biggest fear for this trip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45hRTsXZ5yM&NR=1

I wonder how I will handle my own little "get offs", only time will tell.

Guy

[Trailace]

I just came across this and I have to admit it's a good description of my biggest fear for this trip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45hRTsXZ5yM&NR=1

I wonder how I will handle my own little "get offs", only time will tell.

Guy
I'm sure we all will have to deal with a few get offs but remember to just ride your ride we will all take out turn waiting.

[Mellow]

Don't forget, those guys are packed like crazy. They've probably got at least 100lbs of gear on the back end and the bikes start out maybe twice as heavy was the ones you're taking on this ride.

[Mr. Guy]

Yea, I described it as my biggest fear, but it's nothing I won't overcome. I'm not the kinda guy who takes chances, but crap happens, and then ya deal with it. I just want to still have a good attitude afterwords.

Guy

[Trailace]

Here is another TAT ride report, hope we don't get rain.

TAT (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374366)

[Mr. Guy]

Yea, mud like that, I just might go around and meet you on the other side. Course, with you guys along to help me pick the pig up, I might try it. But never if I was alone.

Guy

P.S. I REALLY hate to pick that damn thing up.

[Chief]

I don't like mud either. It might get the new camper dirty!:eek:

I finally got around to ordering my new fork springs today. Still haven't ordered tires yet.

[Chief]

Oh yeah, I got a Touratech mount used off of Adv Rider for my GPS so I don't have to worry about it falling off and ending up on some pig farmers atv.

[Mr. Guy]

I need to stop reading those TAT ride reports. The closer we get the more they're starting to freak me out. First time jitters I'm sure, but I'm starting to pay attention to the hardships they talk about. A year ago I read those and thought I can't wait to do something like that, now I read them and go "Oh crap I'm going to have to ride though that". When I start to feel it's getting to tough, I'll just have to shake your hands and wish you well on the rest of your trip. Ark. and Ok. I should do fine in, it's Colo. and the Rockies I'm not sure about. I'll just go as far as I can, but I'm not in this to take chances. There's plenty of scenic paved roads for me to head home on.

Counting the days, Guy

[Trailace]

Guy I have been doing and thinking the same way. Just remember were in this to have fun and I'm sure we will all do fine. Your just seeing and remembering the hard parts. Also I bet there will be 1 hard mile for every 100 easy fun mile.


I need to stop reading those TAT ride reports. The closer we get the more they're starting to freak me out. First time jitters I'm sure, but I'm starting to pay attention to the hardships they talk about. A year ago I read those and thought I can't wait to do something like that, now I read them and go "Oh crap I'm going to have to ride though that". When I start to feel it's getting to tough, I'll just have to shake your hands and wish you well on the rest of your trip. Ark. and Ok. I should do fine in, it's Colo. and the Rockies I'm not sure about. I'll just go as far as I can, but I'm not in this to take chances. There's plenty of scenic paved roads for me to head home on.

Counting the days, Guy

[Trailace]

Ok Bad news!:mad:

The hard drive on my computer just crashed and I bet you will never guess what was on it. :map1:

Now how do I get it off and then add my mapping programs to my wife computer.:dizzy1: Hope she don't kill me over this. Looks like I will buying a new one when I get home. Don't have time or money for one now.:think1:

[Tx White Knight]

Bummer, if it is the operation system you may be able to just reinstall over the top of what is there.

If the drive is failing you can put in a new drive, load the OS and then get a external drive and put the old drive in it and hook it up. it may run long enough to get some of your data off of it.

[Mellow]

Ok Bad news!:mad:

The hard drive on my computer just crashed and I bet you will never guess what was on it. :map1:

Now how do I get it off and then add my mapping programs to my wife computer.:dizzy1: Hope she don't kill me over this. Looks like I will buying a new one when I get home. Don't have time or money for one now.:think1:

That must have been my missed call last night...yeow..

Didn't you already load the maps on your gps?

[Trailace]

That must have been my missed call last night...yeow..

Didn't you already load the maps on your gps?
Yes and NO!

I kept trying for 3 hours to get the hard drive to start and the one time it did and I was able to save 2 files and 2 files only. First was my money stuff and next was TAT map. :eek: Boy was I lucky there.

However I'm still missing so much for this ride, pack list, route info, camp site info, links to things I needed. I'm just glad I could retrieve my route.

[Ironheadziggy76]

I need to stop reading those TAT ride reports. The closer we get the more they're starting to freak me out. First time jitters I'm sure, but I'm starting to pay attention to the hardships they talk about. A year ago I read those and thought I can't wait to do something like that, now I read them and go "Oh crap I'm going to have to ride though that". When I start to feel it's getting to tough, I'll just have to shake your hands and wish you well on the rest of your trip. Ark. and Ok. I should do fine in, it's Colo. and the Rockies I'm not sure about. I'll just go as far as I can, but I'm not in this to take chances. There's plenty of scenic paved roads for me to head home on.

Counting the days, Guy

Guy, I haven't met you or seen you ride, but from reading your posts I think you will do fine. Sure, you need to be careful but don't let yourself get caught up in those ride reports. I used to be the same way reading up on ATV rides. My biggest fear was bringing home a bent up ATV and facing the wife who needs it to do yard work! :eek: I would read about falling thousands of feet off of a mountain and almost certain death, and when I got to the place I was reading about I would think, "Are you kidding me?". I would hear about this terrible creek crossing and when I got there I would think I had to be in the wrong place. I think that a lot of ride reports are slightly "embellished", and I have even seen photos of people climbing hills that look like monsters. Then when you look at the pictures close you can see where the cameras were tilted for maximum effect. :p

Do like I do, know your limits, use your best judgment, and enjoy the adventure. Like you said, you can always turn around and find another way around. I have been on trips, where I worried the whole way and it was more like a job than a vacation. Just take it one day at a time and have a blast. Oh yea, and think about us poor guys setting here wishing we were riding with you guys from time to time. You will do fine.

[Chief]

Yes and NO!

I kept trying for 3 hours to get the hard drive to start and the one time it did and I was able to save 2 files and 2 files only. First was my money stuff and next was TAT map. :eek: Boy was I lucky there.

However I'm still missing so much for this ride, pack list, route info, camp site info, links to things I needed. I'm just glad I could retrieve my route.

Well, at least you have something to keep you busy for a couple of weeks!:(

[Mr. Guy]

Don't worry, I'm guessing it's 90% first time jitters, 10% not wanting to slow anyone down.
I know were my limits are and I won't exceed them. I'm in it to have fun too, and if it gets bad enough it's not fun, that's when I'm done, no hard feelings. But I'm sure I'll have fun. And like I said "Counting the days".

Guy

[motomac]

You guys are making me nervous!!!

[Trailace]

You guys are making me nervous!!!
Just part of the fun!

Ok guys (not just Guy) here is a thread that will you at ease about the TAT. I think it is one of the best so far. It starts a little slow but has lot of good info. TAT (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344776)

[Chief]

It looks like I will be packed just about like the couple in that trip report. The bag I'm taking on the back is just about the same size.

Hey Rick, I forgot but I have a set of Wolfman tank panniers that I'm not gonna take. You can use them if you just want a little more carrying room without buying saddlebags.

[motomac]

This will not be a surprise to trailace, but I will not be doing TAT with you guys this year. I will be at the SToc event in AR with my new SO and the history is too much to get into, but she has a big interest in going to AR, so I'll be on the Wing instead of the KLR and aas much as I want to do the TAT, I don't think two-up on a Wing pulling a trailer would be the best way to go. I might get away with it one up..............

[Chief]

Oh man Mac that's too bad, but understandable. I'm gonna have to drink my own bad coffee now!:(

Have a good trip with the SO. You'll be missed.

[Chief]

Went out riding on the DR this afternoon, just messing around, trying the new jacket and helmet and seeing how I liked the little windshield I put on. Everything was good!

Coming to the house I rode down through the ditch in the front yard and was gonna ride some circles around the yard just to play. I downshifted from second to first while I was standing on the pegs, or so I thought! I had only downshifted to neutral and soon lost all momentum on the damp grass and down I went!:o
I stood there for a second laughing at myself and then decided it was just good practice for picking the bike up.:D

[motomac]

Went out riding on the DR this afternoon, just messing around, trying the new jacket and helmet and seeing how I liked the little windshield I put on. Everything was good!

Coming to the house I rode down through the ditch in the front yard and was gonna ride some circles around the yard just to play. I downshifted from second to first while I was standing on the pegs, or so I thought! I had only downshifted to neutral and soon lost all momentum on the damp grass and down I went!:o
I stood there for a second laughing at myself and then decided it was just good practice for picking the bike up.:D
Look Shorty:eek:, I'm sure as big as you are there is no problem picking that little bike up. :p Did you stick it under your arm and carry it across the yard???!!!;) LOL, I'm sure going to kick myself for passing this up!!!:rolleyes:

[Trailace]

This will not be a surprise to trailace, but I will not be doing TAT with you guys this year. I will be at the SToc event in AR with my new SO and the history is too much to get into, but she has a big interest in going to AR, so I'll be on the Wing instead of the KLR and aas much as I want to do the TAT, I don't think two-up on a Wing pulling a trailer would be the best way to go. I might get away with it one up..............
Well sorry you will miss it and we will miss you.

And then there was 3!:D

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac,

I sure will miss meeting you, but I want my wife to ride so bad (she won't) I would give it up too. Can't blame you one bit. Have fun without us.

Guy

[motomac]

Guys, there is too much history for the reason of missing the TAT, but you ever run into Mellow, he can tell the story. Chief and Trailace may know some of it. I will do the Trail at some point, it may be alone, but I will do it. I really was looking forward to doing with you guys though, rubber down.

[Mellow]

Went out riding on the DR this afternoon, just messing around, trying the new jacket and helmet and seeing how I liked the little windshield I put on. Everything was good!

Coming to the house I rode down through the ditch in the front yard and was gonna ride some circles around the yard just to play. I downshifted from second to first while I was standing on the pegs, or so I thought! I had only downshifted to neutral and soon lost all momentum on the damp grass and down I went!:o
I stood there for a second laughing at myself and then decided it was just good practice for picking the bike up.:D

Mike, next time, try unhooking the camper trailer.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Mac,

We all have history of one sort or another, don't sweat it.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Just part of the fun!

Ok guys (not just Guy) here is a thread that will you at ease about the TAT. I think it is one of the best so far. It starts a little slow but has lot of good info. TAT (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344776)

Okay Rick,

I finally succumbed to temptation and started reading this report, only 3 pages into it, but this is more my style. Nice and relaxed. Take it easy and enjoy. I like it.

Guy

[Trailace]

Okay Rick,

I finally succumbed to temptation and started reading this report, only 3 pages into it, but this is more my style. Nice and relaxed. Take it easy and enjoy. I like it.

Guy
We are all in this to have a good time and remember to ride your ride and have fun. :D

[Chief]

Just wanted to say........ 3weeks until lift-off!!!:D

I goy my new fork springs on Friday. Gotta get em in.

[Mr. Guy]

Just changed oil and filter, but I refuse to wash it.

Guy

[GulfXray]

I'm getting excited for you guys!

Can't wait to see pics and hear stories...

ps - Guy, if it is nice enough out to wash a bike, it is nice enough to ride! ;-)

[Mr. Guy]

I'm sure you know how nice the weather was in Ok. today. Thanks Gustov!

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Found another I hadn't seen before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y5INGb2q7o&feature=related

Guy

13 days to go

P.S. another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvFkIolxgFU&feature=related

[Mr. Guy]

Im trying from my cell phone
Posted via Mobile Device

I'm at home now, and it looks like it worked.
A few small post from the road might be possible.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

...10...

[Trailace]

It won't be long now.:D

[motomac]

Hmmm. Isn't that what the monkey said when he got his tail caught in the lawn mower??? I really am having second thoughts about passing this up, but I'm packed for Yosemite and Eureka Springs and have the Wing and trailer and a passenger!!!
You guys have a great time and be careful.

[Trailace]

Guy/Chief, Here if a file with all the camping sites I found along the TAT route. :)

[Chief]

I got a free day off today because of the storm so after evacuating the BMW and the Harley I decided to finally install my fork springs on the DR. I went out riding around in the yard and the springs seem to make a big difference in handling. I'm happy.

Hey Guy, how long does it take those red dirt Oklahoma roads to dry out after all the rain ya'll are gonna get this weekend?

When I came through Arkansas last weekend there was quite a bit of creek backups that I could see from the interstate thanks to Gustav.

9 days, I'm really gonna be ready if we have to do without electricity all week!

[Mr. Guy]

...9...

Hi,

Rick, thanks for the file, I'll add to my GPS.

Chief, a couple of days should be all it takes. We got some of that Gustav up here too.

If you and Rick need to evacuate, head up this way, I've got plenty of tent space, or you can sleep in the shop if you want.

Mac, I'd like to have you along too, but like I said before, if my wife would ride, I'd drop all of you in a heart beat and go to Eureka too. Don't sweat it. We'll see ya somewhere down the road.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Rick,
My Garmin Mapsource program won't let me open your GPX file. It uses a MPS file type.
Do you know how I could fix this.
Thanks, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Ok, fixed now. Just in case anyone else runs into this, I went to Garmens website and downloaded the newest version of mapsource and it worked fine. I was running ver. 3.02, the new one is ver. 6.14. I guess I was a little behind the times.

Guy

[Trailace]

Hi Rick,
My Garmin Mapsource program won't let me open your GPX file. It uses a MPS file type.
Do you know how I could fix this.
Thanks, Guy
Make sure you have the latest version/update of Mapsource. Just click on Help and pick Check for software updates. If your up to date and it still does not work let me know.
Rick

[Mr. Guy]

...8...

Got it fixed.

Thanks, Guy

[Mr. Guy]

...6...

Cleaned chain and air filter today. Clean oil in the bike. Finale packing done.

Ready to go.

Guy

[Chief]

I have not even been able to get back to my house since the hurricane! As of last night it was still under water. We finally left Houston last night and came to San Antonio and got a hotel. Gonna go back tommorrow and see if we can get in to see the damage.
The bikes are OK and I evacuated all my riding gear except my saddlebags so I'm still good to go unless something happens when we get in to see the damage.

[Mellow]

I have not even been able to get back to my house since the hurricane! As of last night it was still under water. We finally left Houston last night and came to San Antonio and got a hotel. Gonna go back tommorrow and see if we can get in to see the damage.
The bikes are OK and I evacuated all my riding gear except my saddlebags so I'm still good to go unless something happens when we get in to see the damage.

Good luck Mike, hopefully it's not too bad.

[Mr. Guy]

Hi Chief,
Let me know if you could use some help, I can use this time and come to Houston if need be. Same goes for you to Rick.

Guy

[Trailace]

I have not even been able to get back to my house since the hurricane! As of last night it was still under water. We finally left Houston last night and came to San Antonio and got a hotel. Gonna go back tommorrow and see if we can get in to see the damage.
The bikes are OK and I evacuated all my riding gear except my saddlebags so I'm still good to go unless something happens when we get in to see the damage.
Mike, If you need to drop the bikes at my house just let me know I have lots of room in the garage.

[Trailace]

Just 5 days. :D

[Mr. Guy]

...5...

GPS and Mp3 downloaded.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

Oh, By the way Chief, the roads are already dusty around here, but NE Ok got more rain. By Thurs. 18th should be a dust bowl up there too.

Guy

[Mr. Guy]

...4...

All systems go.

Guy

[Trailace]

...4...

All systems go.

Guy
Tomorrow I will pack and see how it all fits for real.

[Chief]

Gonna try and take some time from pulling sheetrock and sorting muddy stuff to tend to getting the DR ready tommorrow. Have to locate my riding stuff and my sleeping bag and get it all packed. I think my portable tire pump got flooded so I'll have to rely on you guys for air if I have a flat!

[Mellow]

Gonna try and take some time from pulling sheetrock and sorting muddy stuff to tend to getting the DR ready tommorrow. Have to locate my riding stuff and my sleeping bag and get it all packed. I think my portable tire pump got flooded so I'll have to rely on you guys for air if I have a flat!

Glad to see you're going to still try and make the trip... that's gotta suck to go through all that.. is there such a thing as hurricane insurance or does the flood insurance cover it, if they allow such a thing in your location?

[Chief]

I think it's gonna all fall under flood insurance.

[Trailace]

Gonna try and take some time from pulling sheetrock and sorting muddy stuff to tend to getting the DR ready tommorrow. Have to locate my riding stuff and my sleeping bag and get it all packed. I think my portable tire pump got flooded so I'll have to rely on you guys for air if I have a flat!
Mike I will be carrying a tire pump if you need it but lets hope you don't. :eek:

[Mr. Guy]

...3...

Last minute "freak out" starting, double check my packing.

I'll be carrying a tire pump also, your welcome to it or anything else I've got.

Guy

[Trailace]

Chief/Guy

You guys ready?

I put the front fender back on the bike last night so now I just need to go pack. But firs I'm off to College Station to take the kids to dinner. :D

[Mr. Guy]

....2....

Bags double checked, tire pressure double checked, GPS mounted, Mp3 charged. Oil, filter, air filter and chain clean. I guess that's it. Mounting the bags tonight, tomorrow is Friday Night H.S. football night, wont have time for anything tomorrow night. Be ready to leave early Saturday.

Guy

P.S. We're meeting somewhere in Arkansas, right?;)

[Trailace]

P.S. We're meeting somewhere in Arkansas, right?;)

St Francis NP N34 36.151 W90 36.765 Saturday night.:D

[Chief]

Well Guy, I just talked to Rick and decided that I can't leave until Monday because of my hurricane situation. Everything that we salvaged from the storm is still sitting in the middle of the yard and I have to find a place to put it before I can leave.
I am gonna get all that done in the next 3 days and then I will meet ya'll on the trail on Monday night. Then I'll spend 2 weeks having a blast riding dirt bikes before I gotta go back and figure out where I'm gonna live!

Ya'll have fun starting without me and don't tear up anything before I get there.

[Trailace]

Well Guy, I just talked to Rick and decided that I can't leave until Monday because of my hurricane situation. Everything that we salvaged from the storm is still sitting in the middle of the yard and I have to find a place to put it before I can leave.
I am gonna get all that done in the next 3 days and then I will meet ya'll on the trail on Monday night. Then I'll spend 2 weeks having a blast riding dirt bikes before I gotta go back and figure out where I'm gonna live!

Ya'll have fun starting without me and don't tear up anything before I get there.
Chief
I know this was hard for you to do but its the right thing. We will be looking for you Monday and I will keep you updated each day as to where we are and where we are going. Sure will miss you at the beginning. :(

Guy looks like it you and me for the first few days. :)

[Mr. Guy]

....1....

St Francis NP N34 36.151 W90 36.765 Saturday night.:D

In the GPS and ready to go.

Chief, sorry to hear about your situation, wish I could be there to help, but it sounds like by the time I got there you'd be done. Don't get in to big a hurry to catch up, we'll see ya when ya get here.

I haven't been this exited about a trip since my first trip without my parents along. A friend and I rode about 100 miles on our 125s to a state park, I think Roman Nose State Park, for an overnight trip. I was in Piedmont Junior High at the time. Good times, good times.:)

Guy

[Chief]

Me too Guy. I am ready to GO!

[Mellow]

You guys are in good hands, Rick is an excellent riding partner.. just don't:

- Snore,
- Get Sick,
- Ride too slow,
- Ride too fast,
- Eat expensive food,
- Buy expensive gas...

That's about it, other than that, he's a pleasure to be around.

[Chief]

and don't ride close behind him while he's eating sunflower seeds!

[Mr. Guy]

You guys are in good hands, Rick is an excellent riding partner.. just don't:

- Snore,
- Get Sick,
- Ride too slow,
- Ride too fast,
- Eat expensive food,
- Buy expensive gas...

That's about it, other than that, he's a pleasure to be around.

Oh no,

At one point or another I usually do all those on a trip.

Guy

[Mellow]

and don't ride close behind him while he's eating sunflower seeds!

Yeah... there are many one-eyed bikers out there that have followed him in the past.;)

[Trailace]

You guys are in good hands, Rick is an excellent riding partner.. just don't:

- Snore, Like a chainsaw
- Get Sick, And ack like a B#$@&
- Ride too slow, OK
- Ride too fast, OK
- Eat expensive food, Why would you want to.
- Buy expensive gas...Two times the going rate!

That's about it, other than that, he's a pleasure to be around.
Well I'm at the farm right now cleaning out the freezer and ref. The power has been off for a week and the food smells real good. T
We still do not have power so my camping starts tonight.

Joe I fixed it for ya.

Chief I will see you Monday.

Guy I will see you tomorrow night.

Rick